Ched Evans

[Lucy Chambers]

Clayton texted him inviting him over, i'm sure she was up for it, at the time.

I don't think anybody deserves special treatment, but sure he served time, does he really need all of this negative publicity when he's trying to get his life back on track. Its a shame.

I still believe he's not guilty btw...





You mean we have an opinion and you don't agree with it.

No trolling on my part im afraid.

The young lady didn't invite him over. He persuaded the hotel receptionist to give him a key to the room. Good luck to him trying to get his life on track, maybe he could go do some free youth training or give something back. Other than that he is just like any other offender and should not be allowed to play.

[Lucy Chambers]

Well we know you don't agree from your earlier posts.



As i said, i'm sure the lady was up for it, she was even eating pizza walking into the hotel....

To be honest, im surprised Clayton was cleared of it, and Ched has had his name dragged through the media so much more, the judge are making example of the poor lad it seems.


Agree with you regarding the free youth training and giving something back ... (if anything, to prove himself)


Also, thinking about why he's never apologised to the girl, perhaps he cant justify it - if he is actually innocent.

She wasn't eating pizza, she was holding one. Which part of non consensual isn't clear? The part where he got the key from the receptionist, the part where his two friends were filming the whole thing through the window, or the part where the young lady didn't report a rape but in actual fact a lost handbag? The police decided to arrest Ched Evans, the CPS decided to prosecute him and a jury decided to convict him. In all of this one thing has been forgotten. There is a victim here.

[SteveB]

Bottom line:-
Ched Evans was convicted of rape and sentenced to five years imprisonment.
He was not sentenced to never work or play football again.

Five years imprisonment is the law. Any other "extra legal" "sentence" smacks of vigilantism, no matter what legitimate strong feelings people have about the case.

[Meursault]

There seems to be a misconception here that he is trying to appeal the conviction, this is not the case he has already been refused leave to appeal. What he is doing is having his case looked at by a review group to see if it would warrant being
considered as a miscarriage of justice. His chances of success here are very very slim as only 3% of all cases reviewed are
ever taken further

ok my bad........but you understand why hes not going to apologize if hes trying to have it considered a miscarriage of Justice

[Meursault]

They weren't inconsistent. The first guy met the female in a pizza shop and she willingly went back to the hotel with him. He texted Evans to say he had a bird. Evans then persuaded the receptionist to give him a key to the room, and when he had finished he exited the hotel via the fire escape. Not exactly glorious behaviour on the part of the first male but consent inferred due to the fact she was on CCTV willingly going back to the taxi to collect food and walking unaided back in, alone.

I would agree with that except she accused both men of raping her. One was found not guilty and while the other was not.

That is why there is a big media debate. Two men are accused. One is found not guilty, the other is. Given the circumstances and every case differs on circumstances, it is obvious there is inconsistencies.

I am not schooled in law, but i think the judge should have instructed (if possible) to find them both guilty or both not guilty. Or else she should only have accused ched evans. the fact that she accuses them both of the same crime and one is let go and the other isnt, doesnt make sense and hence why the big debate.

This is being debated on forums across the Uk and Ireland for this reason. If they had both being found guilty we would not be discussing it.

Thats the inconsistency.

[Rachel Divine]

Oh my .. this is getting better and better.

The lady walks in the hotel, willing and eating pizza.

The receptionist gave Evans a key to a room which is not his.

The lady didn't report the rape.

Evans was convicted as rapist and he is due to get out of prison.

Did anyone find the lady's handbag?

When did she get that drunk to not be able to give consent to have sex with Evans?

[Curious k]

Bottom line:-
Ched Evans was convicted of rape and sentenced to five years imprisonment.
He was not sentenced to never work or play football again.

Five years imprisonment is the law. Any other "extra legal" "sentence" smacks of vigilantism, no matter what legitimate strong feelings people have about the case.

That's fair enough. So let's also give Larry Murphy back his taxi licence.

[Rachel Divine]

I would agree with that except she accused both men of raping her. One was found not guilty and while the other was not.

That is why there is a big media debate. Two men are accused. One is found not guilty, the other is. Given the circumstances and every case differs on circumstances, it is obvious there is inconsistencies.

I am not schooled in law, but i think the judge should have instructed (if possible) to find them both guilty or both not guilty. Or else she should only have accused ched evans. the fact that she accuses them both of the same crime and one is let go and the other isnt, doesnt make sense and hence why the big debate.

This is being debated on forums across the Uk and Ireland for this reason. If they had both being found guilty we would not be discussing it.

Thats the inconsistency.

Jesus ....

[Curious k]

I would agree with that except she accused both men of raping her. One was found not guilty and while the other was not.

That is why there is a big media debate. Two men are accused. One is found not guilty, the other is. Given the circumstances and every case differs on circumstances, it is obvious there is inconsistencies.

I am not schooled in law, but i think the judge should have instructed (if possible) to find them both guilty or both not guilty. Or else she should only have accused ched evans. the fact that she accuses them both of the same crime and one is let go and the other isnt, doesnt make sense and hence why the big debate.

This is being debated on forums across the Uk and Ireland for this reason. If they had both being found guilty we would not be discussing it.

Thats the inconsistency.

Your twisting things. Purposely or not. She never said both men raped her. She wanted the first guy charged also, because she blamed him for allowing the rape to happen. In fairness there's a few people in the wrong, even the hotel. But don't forget that she got raped, by Evans. She never entered any room with him.

A different judge would've also charged the friend for texting him as an accomplice, but he got away with that because the Evans guy got a key at reception. So therefore, the first guy didn't actually let him into the room. That's why the first guy got off with it.

[Rachel Divine]

Your twisting things. Purposely or not. She never said both men raped her. She wanted the first guy charged also, because she blamed him for allowing the rape to happen. In fairness there's a few people in the wrong, even the hotel. But don't forget that she got raped, by Evans. She never entered any room with him.

A different judge would've also charged the friend for texting him as an accomplice, but he got away with that because the Evans guy got a key at reception. So therefore, the first guy didn't actually let him into the room. That's why the first guy got off with it.

I am sure the hotel is out of business now.