Video Of Swedish Sex Police Stalking/arresting A Punter!

[The Libertarian]

The Prostitution Unit of the Stockholm Police in Sweden arrests a man for the buying of sex according to the so-called sex purchase law in Sweden which criminalizes the buying of sex but not the selling. Clip was originally broadcast in the Swedish TV-show called "Crime of the Week" in 2014.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=OofRzb5gDBE

This client is caught out because the police ask him her name when he leaves and the name he gave them was her working name (obviously not her real name). He admitted to it and was given a fine. Good job she was working alone or she would have been arrested too (yes that's right, just like in the UK it is illegal to sell sex in Sweden/Ireland in a brothel).
There's certainly some prima facie evidence as has been mentioned that she is a victim of trafficking! The Swedish so called police, wouldn't give a shit about that as this law guarantees that trafficking, nasty pimping and psychotic clients will flourish! The Swedish police are also pre-programmed by Swedish society into believing that female sex workers are all essentially mentally ill!
It has been suggested that the punters mistake was his admission, but the punter will know he will be arrested in any case (also have his DNA taken and compared to all DNA on outstanding rapes, child molestation and murders by the sex police!), he will also be aware that his non admission of guilt will encourage the Police to put pressure on the lady e.g. confiscation of earnings oh and yes, threats to put her children into care (after all she is perceived by these nut jobs to be the one who is mentally ill!).
Incidently those Swedish Police would easily pass for Knackers here in Ireland!
Will we end up on 'Crime Call' at some stage in the future?

[The Libertarian]

Actually, when you think about it after viewing it, rather than viewing the Swedish Knacker police here as they astonishingly view themselves as angels of mercy, candidates for canonisation (along with Father Brendan Smyth and Father Sean Fortune) or for a Swedish Knighthood (like Jimmy Saville). we should view them as enablers of traffickers and pimps! Why, well, they have come across an instance where they have genuine reason to believe a woman is being pimped nastily/trafficked and according to their stats such a woman maybe forced to see 15 -20 men a day AND THEY WILL WAIT OUTSIDE HER APARTMENT AND WAIT FOR HER TO BE POTENTIALLY RAPED BY 15-20 CLIENTS, ARRESTING THEM OUTSIDE FOR BEING THERE, BUT DOING NOTHING TO STOP HER FROM BEING POTENTIALLY RAPED!These Pigz are psychotic indoctrinated nut jobs!
Also it's abundantly clear they are wrong in stating that clients effectively create nasty pimps and traffickers, ah no you still obviously have a trafficking issue, so therefore it's bad policing (fine collection outweighs rescuing a potentially trafficked woman) and bad laws such as this insane one!
THE GAME SHOULD BE UP FOR THE SWEDISH MODEL IN ANY CIVILISED SOCIETY!

[The Libertarian]

There will be one substantial difference between the way such a law would be enforced here and in Sweden though, as the Knacker police officers said men from all walks of life have been arrested including fellow Pigz and prosecutors, Guarantee you in Ireland such gobshites will never be arrested or any other from the great and the good set, even if caught with every trafficked woman in the country at the same time!
Such scum would have to be caught in bed with a dead woman or a live sheep. and even then odds are they would face no consequences!

[Curvaceous Kate]

Actually, when you think about it after viewing it, rather than viewing the Swedish Knacker police here as they astonishingly view themselves as angels of mercy, candidates for canonisation (along with Father Brendan Smyth and Father Sean Fortune) or for a Swedish Knighthood (like Jimmy Saville). we should view them as enablers of traffickers and pimps! Why, well, they have come across an instance where they have genuine reason to believe a woman is being pimped nastily/trafficked and according to their stats such a woman maybe forced to see 15 -20 men a day AND THEY WILL WAIT OUTSIDE HER APARTMENT AND WAIT FOR HER TO BE POTENTIALLY RAPED BY 15-20 CLIENTS, ARRESTING THEM OUTSIDE FOR BEING THERE, BUT DOING NOTHING TO STOP HER FROM BEING POTENTIALLY RAPED!These Pigz are psychotic indoctrinated nut jobs!
Also it's abundantly clear they are wrong in stating that clients effectively create nasty pimps and traffickers, ah no you still obviously have a trafficking issue, so therefore it's bad policing (fine collection outweighs rescuing a potentially trafficked woman) and bad laws such as this insane one!
THE GAME SHOULD BE UP FOR THE SWEDISH MODEL IN ANY CIVILISED SOCIETY!

There seemed to be a long wait for them for the first client to come along while they were staking her place out. It certainly didn't give the impression of a conveyor belt, which it would have to be for 15 or more clients per day. They also contradicted themselves in saying that there were 2 peek times of day for clients to visit, as each Escort can only see so many Clients in a given time frame as 'lunch time' and 'after work', so at best you have a 3 hour period in the day where is may be busy and the rest of the day is slower, which means she is not working the hours being suggested.

Also, although many are dubious of the 24 hour availability thing here. It does not mean you are working for 24 hours, as much as able to be booked within that time frame and often unsociable hours may be pre-booked or ignored if the Escort needs sleep. It certainly isn't a 100% fact that she has to be working against her will.

[The Libertarian]

There seemed to be a long wait for them for the first client to come along while they were staking her place out. It certainly didn't give the impression of a conveyor belt, which it would have to be for 15 or more clients per day. They also contradicted themselves in saying that there were 2 peek times of day for clients to visit, as each Escort can only see so many Clients in a given time frame as 'lunch time' and 'after work', so at best you have a 3 hour period in the day where is may be busy and the rest of the day is slower, which means she is not working the hours being suggested.

Also, although many are dubious of the 24 hour availability thing here. It does not mean you are working for 24 hours, as much as able to be booked within that time frame and often unsociable hours may be pre-booked or ignored if the Escort needs sleep. It certainly isn't a 100% fact that she has to be working against her will.

It's not certain she has been coerced to work, but it doesn't look particularly good and it looks far worse in that the so called police have chosen not investigate it, even though, they suspect it, but instead wait outside for easy fines, essentially the government may be the second nasty pimp, here!
The 15-20 client per diem figure is one that the 2 so called police officers introduced into the debate!
If police officers in most Western World countries suspected a woman was being coerced as a sex worker and forced to accommodate that amount of clients, they would not wait outside for those 15 -20 clients to come out, before moving to interview the lady or getting intelligence on their suspicions from the punters!
Trafficking would be considered a more significant crime than a punter doing the biz, but it's not the case here!
Although punting with a suspected (by the punter) trafficked/coerced woman should also be taken seriously!

[Curvaceous Kate]

It's not certain she has been coerced to work, but it doesn't look particularly good and it looks far worse in that the so called police have chosen not investigate it, even though, they suspect it, but instead wait outside for easy fines, essentially the government may be the second nasty pimp, here!
The 15-20 client per diem figure is one that the 2 so called police officers introduced into the debate!
If police officers in most Western World countries suspected a woman was being coerced as a sex worker and forced to accommodate that amount of clients, they would not wait outside for those 15 -20 clients to come out, before moving to interview the lady or getting intelligence on their suspicions from the punters!
Trafficking would be considered a more significant crime than a punter doing the biz, but it's not the case here!
Although punting with a suspected (by the punter) trafficked/coerced woman should also be taken seriously!

The problem is, apart from their inaction to try and help the woman they suspect to be working against her will, is that they believe long term by awarding fines it will eventually eradicate the Sex Trade. It's almost like they are blind to their own facts. A decade on they say that they estimate there are up to 1000 women working against their will in Sweden and in the back of the Police car a so called criminal said that it was the equivalent to driving across a red light, but people still do it.

The system evidently isn't working and they are neglecting the blindingly obvious, which is the coerced or trafficked Sex Worker who is their against her will.

One would like to think if someone had reported an Escort believing her to be working against her will and supplied an address, they would approach the lady and offer assistance. The fact that they use the opportunity to fine Clients instead shows that the system is totally warped, as you say, they are potentially knowledgeably and willfully allowing the woman to continue being raped, by waiting until after the booking to make a fine.

I believe this is one of the reasons why France through it out of the window and rightly so.

[The Libertarian]

Yes, to any logical open mind, this video proves their insane law is not working except of course for nasty pimps and traffickers!
Of course part of the reason, I feel the main reason it's proposed here is to make sex workers suffer and that's also the case in Sweden! There cannot be much more greater suffering than a woman being coerced into sex work, forced to see 15=20 clients a day and the Swedish police are deliberately letting her suffer this! IT'S SERIOUSLY INSANE!

[Davidontour]

Interesting video -- thanks for posting.

A few observations --

The fact that OWO being offered somehow flagged up a dangerous problem. This is always at the escort's discretion and certainly not uncommon or an indicator of an escort being in danger.

The mention of 24 hour availability. This was discussed recently on the forum and certainly doesn't mean that an escort will be available at say 4am.

The admission that there are approx 1000 sex workers in Sweden, a country with a population not much larger than Ireland. And this after 15 years of their supposedly successful 'model'.

The fact that the client was arrested virtually outside the escort's door and the prevous presence of two dodgy looking plain clothes police in the building for at least 30 minutes. What message does this send to the neighbours? How likelyis the sex worker to be subsequently evicted?

And as Kate said, where is the concern for the sex worker who the earlier client was worried enough to report? Looks like fines for what is laughably called a crime (consensual sex between two adults) are more important than sex worker welfare. The cynicism evident here is quite breathtaking.

[dob]

Silly little video. 1989 is calling, they want that PLO scarf back.
These guys resort to cliché to justify their actions.
So called underage sw was not recused, surely the first thing they should have done.
Interesting that the tip off came from a concerned anonymous 'sex shopper', yet they just use her as bait for their collars.
Don't think such an operation would be popular in Ireland, especially if it meant resources taken from more serious investigations.

[The Libertarian]

Silly little video. 1989 is calling, they want that PLO scarf back.
These guys resort to cliché to justify their actions.
So called underage sw was not recused, surely the first thing they should have done.
Interesting that the tip off came from a concerned anonymous 'sex shopper', yet they just use her as bait for their collars.
Don't think such an operation would be popular in Ireland, especially if it meant resources taken from more serious investigations.

Well, it would entirely depend on what pressure our native pigz were put under from their bosses, if such a law was introduced!
Don't forget also that they are very big on collecting soft easy fines rather than doing serious policing!
Also time and effort and expense is already expended in stalking brothels here and subsequently persecuting ladies who were working there consensually, including giving their hard earned cash to Magdellan-Ruhama!
And if people who dare to download sites such as EI are to be legally the equivalent of child molesters downloading scenes of children being raped, than surely it will be viewed as a very serious crime, unless they want to substantially downgrade child rape as a crime!
But still the great and the good and probably even the Nidges of this country will be left alone!