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    Can somebody explain to me thepoint of being an atheist? As I see it, if an atheist is right, he (or she) is f~cked once he dies; but if he's wrong, he's probably f~cked too! Surely - as the old people said - it's better to live in hope than die in despair? If you spend your life believing in an afterlife and it turns out you're wrong, what have you lost? Seems to me like a free bet in the Grand National!

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    Quote Originally Posted by Bambam1 View Post
    ah lad im not getting at you or anyone i just replaced some words,i dont have a problem with any religion,.. did you not notice i copied a sentence from the original post and changed a few words
    I didn't notice, sorry fella. Like I say, I know the point you were making, but for me, it didn't work. Fair enough.

    Quote Originally Posted by wolfeagle View Post
    Can somebody explain to me thepoint of being an atheist? As I see it, if an atheist is right, he (or she) is f~cked once he dies; but if he's wrong, he's probably f~cked too! Surely - as the old people said - it's better to live in hope than die in despair? If you spend your life believing in an afterlife and it turns out you're wrong, what have you lost? Seems to me like a free bet in the Grand National!
    Atheist means that you don't really believe in a higher being and life after death, etc, etc. I still live in hope; as far as I am concerned, once I snuff it, that's it. I could go all 'well, live life and party, we're going to die anyway', but on the contrary, I look at it like this; I'm only here once, so I'll look after myself and try to get as much out of life as possible. When I die, I'll be feeding plants, so life continues in one form or another, and I'm okay with that. I don't need religion in my life to be a good person; I still help my neighbour (and often do, bless her!), I teach my children to be open-minded and respect different religions, cultures and race, I give change to the homeless, donate to charity and help a stranger in need. Although these things may not necessarily epitomise religion per se I also think that if there is an afterlife (which I don't), then I don't think I would have to buy my way into heaven by praying in a ceremonial building every day/week/month or whatever, but I still want to be a good person.

    It is a bit hypocritical that I love Christmas, but then again if it brings people together in harmony and gives people hope and a time to come together to celebrate, what is wrong with that? It makes the world a better place. People give more to charities, buy a toy for a child who wouldn't normally have a gift at Christmas and families can get together. On the other foot, people are beating each other up in Asda for the last Black Friday bargain, some people are depressed and lonely and.... wait for it.... families get together!

    It is all about perspective.

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    i don't like xmas day , i will be doing a college assignment that day

    i love 26th as i go to the races lol & Jay you better be at the races on Boxing Day in Limerick lol

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    Quote Originally Posted by Bambam1 View Post
    personally as a proud catholic
    You hypocrite. your breaking the very rules of Catholic church by visiting escorts. You think you are a proud catholic but your not. What you should have said is you were born one. I too was born one, maybe a proud one too but the behavior of these bastards has long ago made me turn away from them and their teachings. Funny because you always know if a religion is shit or not because it would have rules that cant possibly be followed by its followers. Thats makes every religion I guess. Im not an Atheist or a deeply religious person but I do believe in a higher power. I also believe that you do or believe whatever suits you and brings some good to you but plz dont give me this proud practicing catholic bullshit because your talking through your arse in this respect. You never curse or use the lords name in vain either. Oh I forgot ,you do wrong and then seek forgiveness. I forgot that.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Westsidex View Post
    You hypocrite. your breaking the very rules of Catholic church by visiting escorts. You think you are a proud catholic but your not. What you should have said is you were born one. I too was born one, maybe a proud one too but the behavior of these bastards has long ago made me turn away from them and their teachings. Funny because you always know if a religion is shit or not because it would have rules that cant possibly be followed by its followers. Thats makes every religion I guess. Im not an Atheist or a deeply religious person but I do believe in a higher power. I also believe that you do or believe whatever suits you and brings some good to you but plz dont give me this proud practicing catholic bullshit because your talking through your arse in this respect. You never curse or use the lords name in vain either. Oh I forgot ,you do wrong and then seek forgiveness. I forgot that.

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    read the thread from start to finish good lad,

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    Religion has a lot to answer for! Most of the wars fought over the centuries were as a differing religious views( and a bit of greed here & there)
    Still we can wish each other peace & goodwill for the season!

    I had wonderful Xmases as a kid and after that too, it's only in the last few years that they havent the same excitement for me ,when you lose your parents and there is illness in the family etc
    Seek and you shall find!

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    [QUOTE=Jaygoodtimes;1256776]Christmas as we know is a day for our lord () I know right lol !

    How many of you actually see it as a religious day or dedicate it to jesus? And how many just see It as what It is, a materialistic day spent with friends and family?

    Personally as a proud Atheist and dedicated hater of all things catholic, christain and whatever the fuck else you want to call it I see It as a day to get bladdered in order to forget its christmas, I just dont like the day or the holiday. People wll call me pessimistic but really I couldnt give a toss.

    Happy Holidays folks[/QUOTE for me xmas is a load of crap and money wasting. don't get me wrong as i love to see people happy. presents going back and forth and they might not even talk for the rest of the year. people get too sentimental and loose the run of themselves.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Jaygoodtimes View Post
    Christmas as we know is a day for our lord () I know right lol !

    How many of you actually see it as a religious day or dedicate it to jesus? And how many just see It as what It is, a materialistic day spent with friends and family?

    Personally as a proud Atheist and dedicated hater of all things catholic, christain and whatever the fuck else you want to call it I see It as a day to get bladdered in order to forget its christmas, I just dont like the day or the holiday. People wll call me pessimistic but really I couldnt give a toss.

    Happy Holidays folks
    Its a load of bollox to me tbh and always was. FFS seeing people who who havnt seen for so long you nearly have to be reintroduced to them again.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Jaygoodtimes View Post
    Christmas as we know is a day for our lord () I know right lol !

    How many of you actually see it as a religious day or dedicate it to jesus? And how many just see It as what It is, a materialistic day spent with friends and family?

    Personally as a proud Atheist and dedicated hater of all things catholic, christain and whatever the fuck else you want to call it I see It as a day to get bladdered in order to forget its christmas, I just dont like the day or the holiday. People wll call me pessimistic but really I couldnt give a toss.

    Happy Holidays folks
    its fairly pointless if you dont have kids in your life and are not meeting people that you rarely see and christmas becomes one of the only times in the year that you get to see them, then again its about great memories too and its good to relive and share them and reminess about your past Christmases as a child especially. love the look of the xmas tree, but folks too old to put the full sized one up and decorate it like they use to when we were kids. it literally looked magical back then
    and had a special aura to it

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    its just like any other day really to me, you may see old friends etc but its really not that special anymore to me not like it use to be.
    Its really a time for the children and its special for them.

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