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Was Abraham Lincoln a tyrant like Assad????
Just a thought. If a State volunteers to become part of a Union, then it can choose to leave can't it?
Was Lincoln refusing to let the other States break away (and causing the civil war) any different to Assad refusing to lose control over certain areas of his country?
Last edited by Martin Mod; 17-06-13 at 16:40.
Well, I would not say that Lincoln was a tyrant, for he had a democratic mandate (albeit a flawed, nineteenth-century one). However, from what I've read, I am pretty certain he was not the saintly figure portrayed by Daniel Day Lewis in Lincoln.
I believe that democratic states have the right to secede from a union, but that clearly didn't apply to the Confederacy, in which about one-third of the population were held in often brutal bondage. So, no, I do not see a clear parallel between the two conflicts.
I am by no means a pacifist. I believe that if one must spill blood, one is morally obliged to do so as humanely as possible. Can you really claim Assad or his daddy ever even tried to be humane?
I also find it ironic that George Galloway, aka Saddam Hussein's personal rimmer, uses Bush-style false dichotomies to justify his shilling for dictatorships. It's like he expects the public to believe that every Arab in the Middle East is either a secular thug like Assad or bloodthirsty fanatic like Bin Laden.
"Either you are with us, or you are with the terrorists."
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Lincoln broke all sorts of laws in order to prosecute the war and save the union. He closed down newspapers and jailed critics without trial. If memory serves me correctly he even jailed or removed a judge who wouldn't do what he required during the war. But I don't think he was a tyrant. He did it to save the country, not himself or vested interests
Times are different and whats one thing then would be something else now even though they are the same thing. Today civilised butchery and legal wars sort of rule.Originally Posted by Martin Mod
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Once a state join the Union, it cannot leave it without a majority vote from the congress and the senat.
Abraham Lincoln is remembered by the native american population as a tyrant responsible for many massacres and implementing discrimination policies towards the native population . http://www.washingtonmonthly.com/mag...amer042037.php
this is just one of many articles http://www.greatdreams.com/lies.htm
example :
In 1862, President Abraham Lincoln ordered the execution, by hanging, of 38 Dakota Sioux prisoners in Mankato, Minnesota. Most of those executed were holy men or political leaders of their camps. None of them were responsible for committing the crimes they were accused of. Coined as the Largest Mass Execution in U.S. History. (Brown, Dee. BURY MY HEART AT WOUNDED KNEE. New York: Holt, Rinehart, Winston, 1970. pp. 59-61)
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Indeed Lincoln was a tyrant in a classic,unique and diplomatic way not as Assad..! as he saw himself as the supreme Law of the Land and he created the imperial presidency, one with far more power than the British sovereign ever had. He also set the precedent for the executive to regularly break the law, with impunity....
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It is an interesting one.
But as Doozer said, he was a vampire hunter who just killed thousands of his countrymen as a sideline
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It is an interesting one.
But as Doozer said, he was a vampire hunter who just killed thousands of his countrymen as a sideline
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