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    I noticed a tweet from Phil Bradfield questioning why most escorts in ireland are from poor countries with little English.

    I haven't spoken to enough escorts to know how good their English is on average, but I think it's all too often assumed that non-Irish escorts are mostly from very poor countries and that this is one driving force into prostitution.

    On reflection though, how true is this? I think there's a misconception among Irish people that anywhere in Eastern Europe is poor. Granted, most of them are poorer than Ireland in terms of GDP, but they're not third-world countries.

    Most of the non-irish escort profiles I've looked at say they're from:

    Romania(58)
    Poland(47)
    Latvia(50)
    Czech(35)
    Brazil(75)
    Colombia(84)
    Italy(25)
    Uk(22)

    Apart from Colombia, all those countries rank in the top half of the world in terms of GDP per capita, out of 181 countries (source world bank-I've put their rankings in brackets)

    Admittedly, GDP doesn't tell anything about economic equality within countries, but it gives some idea.

    Perhaps the list above is not representative? What do you think -is it a mythical assumption that the average escort is from a very poor country? And even if she was, does that mean its a driving force?

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    i doubt if more than 50% of escorts have their country of origin filled correctly .

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    Quote Originally Posted by mikki99943 View Post
    i doubt if more than 50% of escorts have their country of origin filled correctly .
    Fair point.

    But then where do Ruhama get their stats from, if they've spoken to only a handful of escorts.

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    Quote Originally Posted by gamey27 View Post
    Fair point.

    But then where do Ruhama get their stats from, if they've spoken to only a handful of escorts.
    They make it up

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    Quote Originally Posted by gamey27 View Post
    I noticed a tweet from Phil Bradfield questioning why most escorts in ireland are from poor countries with little English.

    I haven't spoken to enough escorts to know how good their English is on average, but I think it's all too often assumed that non-Irish escorts are mostly from very poor countries and that this is one driving force into prostitution.

    On reflection though, how true is this? I think there's a misconception among Irish people that anywhere in Eastern Europe is poor. Granted, most of them are poorer than Ireland in terms of GDP, but they're not third-world countries.

    Most of the non-irish escort profiles I've looked at say they're from:

    Romania(58)
    Poland(47)
    Latvia(50)
    Czech(35)
    Brazil(75)
    Colombia(84)
    Italy(25)
    Uk(22)

    Apart from Colombia, all those countries rank in the top half of the world in terms of GDP per capita, out of 181 countries (source world bank-I've put their rankings in brackets)

    Admittedly, GDP doesn't tell anything about economic equality within countries, but it gives some idea.

    Perhaps the list above is not representative? What do you think -is it a mythical assumption that the average escort is from a very poor country? And even if she was, does that mean its a driving force?
    Economic hardship and ethnic/racial/sectarian persecution in the homeland, are two of the main reasons for human migration xx

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    Quote Originally Posted by Stephanie View Post
    Economic hardship and ethnic/racial/sectarian persecution in the homeland, are two of the main reasons for human migration xx

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    sure even within ireland we have a lot of refugees from cork to deal with

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    Money is a driving force why women become escorts I would imagine
    Nearly all of the foreign ladies that I've met have been very smart and very goal orientated. I find it amazing sometimes how quickly they learn English if they have little when they come, far quicker than I would pick up a language.
    Its not only a matter of money in many countries but lack of opportunity in which to improve their situation. Many save to say, buy an apartment etc, which would take them years (if at all) to do if they stayed at home

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    Quote Originally Posted by mellors View Post
    Money is a driving force why women become escorts I would imagine
    Nearly all of the foreign ladies that I've met have been very smart and very goal orientated. I find it amazing sometimes how quickly they learn English if they have little when they come, far quicker than I would pick up a language.
    Its not only a matter of money in many countries but lack of opportunity in which to improve their situation. Many save to say, buy an apartment etc, which would take them years (if at all) to do if they stayed at home
    This is true, but in my mind there's an important distinction between money being an important factor (and in many cases the main or only one) in deciding to sell sex, and it being a last option.

    The implication from Ruhama is that escorts are from such poor backgrounds that they have no option but to emigrate and sell sex. I'm disputing whether they're actually from very poor backgrounds at all. Of course some are, but is it typical?

    Don't want o offend anyone btw, just posing he question

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    Quote Originally Posted by gamey27 View Post
    This is true, but in my mind there's an important distinction between money being an important factor (and in many cases the main or only one) in deciding to sell sex, and it being a last option.

    The implication from Ruhama is that escorts are from such poor backgrounds that they have no option but to emigrate and sell sex. I'm disputing whether they're actually from very poor backgrounds at all. Of course some are, but is it typical?

    Don't want o offend anyone btw, just posing he question
    The problem with Ruhama is that they go for the most extreme example to grab the headlines. In some third world countries i'm sure what you say can be true as a last option, but when your talking about that level of poverty then they haven't the money or access to it to travel, they tend to gravitate to cities in their own country.
    The foreign escorts who work here are not un-educated, far from it in many cases, so no I don't believe its a last option. They have friends at home who work in 'normal jobs'. perhaps those aren't so ambitious or don't want to do the job. How many work in good professional jobs over here or do the lower paid jobs ? Nearly every coffee shop I go into the staff are Eastern European etc...so belies the notion that sex work is a last option.

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    I think this is such a brilliant and interesting topic.

    Migration for work purposes has existed for years and years. In almost every country and every trade. The sex industry is no different. People go where oportunities may be and that is not soley people from poor countries.

    Trafficking and economic migration are in my opinion 2 different things, something many people out there fail to understand. Economic migration is a positive thing in my opinion. Where as trafficking is disgusting.

    To try and give an answer to your question is difficult I think as I don't believe there are any average escorts- most situations are unique. I would say that the majority of escorts who leave their place of home to work are doing so to make money. However it does not mean there is no money in their country. Simply they could make more elsewhere.

    Worth noting that whilst sime countires are very rich, a large percentage of the wealth is held by a small percentage of the population. Nigeria for example. Also not everyone who sells sex comes from a poor family or is uneducated- far from it. I have met countless people in this industry from numerous countries who decided to leave brilliant prospects, be that education or employment to sell sex.

    But in general they would do well to remember that selling sex by choice is a job. Just like every other. A job one does to make money. Some may consider anyone who sells sex to be desperate but perhaps some who sell sex see people who clean toilets or flip burgers as desperate. It is all relative
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