Judge says 'Woman's body should have prevented rape'

[anon361]

IQ tests are subjective and don't accommodate for cultural differences.

For example, in England (for example) we would consider this as 'upstairs':



And this 'donwstairs':



In other cultures, this would be the other way round, but this is perceived to us as such because we read from left to right.

IQ tests are culturally specific, so I wouldn't take them as gospel.

That is real dumb, sure everyone knows upstairs downstairs

Now I'm confused. Do you mean the Germans or the French?

Touché

[Sexy Sandy 69]

I asked was he hinting at something else? and not what extracts have been taken out of what he said and twisted to mean something else which is what is being debated here. have you all read about the story or just the big bold writing designed to grab your attention?
I'm not defending the guy nor saying what he siad is right but if someone is going to be quoted let them be quoted in full so nothing can be taken out of context..

Anon you said she didn't do herself any favours by waiting 17 days to report the rape, what does it matter if someone reports an attack after 17 days or 17 years? There's been many sexual abusers that have been tried & convicted many years after an attack.

Sandy x

[Stephanie]

You can be an intelligent person but still have really stupid views, such as your gun laws...

"This is a historical list of countries by firearm-related death-rate per 100,000 population in one year."


Homicides :


Brazil (18) , Mexico (10), Costa Rica (3.32), Argentina (3) etc. In all, 17 listed countries have a higher

murder by gun rate than the US (2.98)


http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of...ted_death_rate


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% of homicides by firearm by country :


US 60%, Italy 66% , Brazil 70.8%, Switzerland 72.2% , etc. In all 24 listed countries have higher rates than the US.


http://www.guardian.co.uk/news/datab...hip-world-list



Leather , thank you for the Links xx

[samlad]

"This is a historical list of countries by firearm-related death-rate per 100,000 population in one year."


Homicides :


Brazil (18) , Mexico (10), Costa Rica (3.32), Argentina (3) etc. In all, 17 listed countries have a higher

murder by gun rate than the US (2.98)


http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of...ted_death_rate


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% of homicides by firearm by country :


US 60%, Italy 66% , Brazil 70.8%, Switzerland 72.2% , etc. In all 24 listed countries have higher rates than the US.


http://www.guardian.co.uk/news/datab...hip-world-list



Leather , thank you for the Links xx

That is just homicides, and the majority of those countries with total of firearm related deaths higher than America are South American, many of them renowned for their drug trafficking issues. America is 12th out of 65 countries!

[Stephanie]

That Judge is an idiot, whatever country he is in.

I am fairly certain that his legal career will come to a swift end on the back of his personal opinion


"The commission found that Johnson's view that a victim must resist to be a real victim of sexual assault was his opinion,

not the law. Since 1980, California law has not required rape victims to prove they resisted or were prevented from resisting."



I think Ireland has a similar law on the books, since 1982 ??

What's on in the UK ?

[Stephanie]

That is just homicides, and the majority of those countries with total of firearm related deaths higher than America are South American, many of them renowned for their drug trafficking issues.

I thought it was the school shooting incident that was brought into this thread.. Clearly homicide.

[samlad]

I thought it was the school shooting incident that was brought into this thread.. Clearly homicide.

I know, but how many news stories do we hear about Colombians opening fire in schools? 17th out of 65 countries is still extremely shocking for what we consider to be a civilised country. I do agree that the gun laws are out-dated, and the only reason people are allowed guns is to protect themselves from people with guns.

[Banjaxed]

That Judge is an idiot, whatever country he is in.

I am fairly certain that his legal career will come to a swift end on the back of his personal opinion


"The commission found that Johnson's view that a victim must resist to be a real victim of sexual assault was his opinion,

not the law. Since 1980, California law has not required rape victims to prove they resisted or were prevented from resisting."



I think Ireland has a similar law on the books, since 1982 ??

What's on in the UK ?

In Ireland and the UK it's not on the books as such, it's a common law position.

[Stephanie]

I know, but how many news stories do we hear about Colombians opening fire in schools? 17th out of 65 countries is still extremely shocking for what we consider to be a civilised country. I do agree that the gun laws are out-dated, and the only reason people are allowed guns is to protect themselves from people with guns.

How many reports of stupid Colombian Judicial decisions do you hear of ??

On the same day of the US shooting, in China a man went into a school and stabbed 22 little kids. Horrific.

Yet, was there wall-to-wall coverage on it ?? Reporting on US is so much more sensational !! Sells so much better !


We can go in circles.. . My only point is that I think it is wrong to make blanket statements, to condemn a whole country for

some mentally deranged people's acts. Or based on the opinion of an idiot on the Bench.

We are a big country (population 309 million !!). We're bound to have some idiots and some maniacs. And they make great coverage.



Even one, even one single life lost to violence is one too many. You won't get any argument from me on that.

But to make a comment "level of stupidity in US" is just not right.




So let's get back on topic : Hm, was it about 3 years ago ? In Ireland a man raped a woman in a parking lot, behind a club (I think) ,

he was caught on CCTV. Was sentenced (don't know the terms), yet the woman was shunned by her community because

she 'had a reputation' ; and at the sentencing the local priest spoke up in defence of the man, and there was a line of

well wishers to the man on his bad fortune to actually have to do time for a brutal rape committed .

I could be wrong on details, please do correct me. xx

[samlad]

How many reports of stupid Colombian Judicial decisions do you hear of ??

On the same day of the US shooting, in China a man went into a school and stabbed 22 little kids. Horrific.

Yet, was there wall-to-wall coverage on it ?? Reporting on US is so much more sensational !! Sells so much better !


We can go in circles.. . My only point is that I think it is wrong to make blanket statements, to condemn a whole country for

some mentally deranged people's acts. Or based on the opinion of an idiot on the Bench.

We are a big country (population 309 million !!). We're bound to have some idiots and some maniacs. And they make great coverage.



Even one, even one single life lost to violence is one too many. You won't get any argument from me on that.

But to make a comment "level of stupidity in US" is just not right.




So let's get back on topic : Hm, was it about 3 years ago ? In Ireland a man raped a woman in a parking lot, behind a club (I think) ,

he was caught on CCTV. Was sentenced (don't know the terms), yet the woman was shunned by her community because

she 'had a reputation' ; and at the sentencing the local priest spoke up in defence of the man, and there was a line of

well wishers to the man on his bad fortune to actually have to do time for a brutal rape committed .

I could be wrong on details, please do correct me. xx

That's the point, it isn't regarded as a 'civilised' society. America is.