True Independent Escorts and Agency Escorts

[UncleBob]

which working people though?

The people on the coalface doing the actual work, i.e. the workers.

Why, do you think a pimp is a "working person"?

[justfrank44]

It´s interesting threads like this that are worth reading. I knew nothing about the escort industry until I accidently met my first escort this year (seriously). I have wanted to ask some of the ladies about the industry , but I am afraid of sounding like a reporter, so this is very informative.I have no idea if the ladies I have met were agency or independent, I just rely on the information they provide in their profiles. None of them have seemed less than happy in their profession ,and I could guess that at least one was an agency girl, so not sure if it really matters as long as the ladies are treated fairely.

[UKHeather]

If an independent escort doesn't want to take her own calls and organise everything herself she could employ a maid for a fixed daily fee.
Still illegal but..

[Lucy Chambers]

I don't know the answers to these questions. I think agencies are underground here and thus we don't know.

Rachel stated that the agency she came to Ireland with charged 60 - 70 percent. In their favour. With those types of figures, that goes way beyond assistance.

[UncleBob]

But why does agency always equal exploitation in your mind?

I didn't say "always equal". But the overwhelming number of people 'running' others for sex work are using coercion of some degree and taking a clearly disproportionate share of the wages. And are the ones responsible for trafficking.

[funlover12]

I wholly agree.

But I would hesitate to call an escort independent if someone else is making the decision as to whom she will see [ie. 'telephonist'].

An agency in itself may not be a bad thing, and in fact could be an excellent launching platform for 'new kids on the block'

-- girls with little English etc.

I think the problem lies in 1. Agencies being illegal, 2. it is so much more difficult to judge the 'willingness' of the provider if 'handled' .

Benevolent agencies I think can benefit certain providers, but it is just too easy for the not-so-nice 'agents' to blend in.

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and that right there is why girls dont say they are agency, BECAUSE AGENCIES ARE ILLEGAL in Ireland
so you cant blame eithre them or the agencies for not wanting to put a target on their backs

[warmcome]

The people on the coalface doing the actual work, i.e. the workers.

Why, do you think a pimp is a "working person"?

the world is not ideal. can't the miners start out independent?

[Curvaceous Kate]

In the UK is it not the case that most agencies do not employ escorts? The escorts are self-employed. Many escorts there work for multiple agencies, plus independently at times, they are not employees of the agency, they are just taking work from an agency as a self-employed person.

Not entirely correct, as the agency will advertise on their behalf and arrange for their photo's to be taken and make their bookings for them. This means they are taking on the reputation of the Agency and therefore they are not generating their own work. If is is not quite the same as freelance, as when you normally work freelance you get paid for the work done, not have money taken away from you and the Agency is not paying them.

If you compare this with say a modelling agency. A reputable one would not charge them for creating a porfolio and they will actively look for work on their behalf and arrange interviews for them. They will then get their cut from the person employing them for the photo shoot, who pay them and they in turn pay the model.

I guess we do have a grey area, which is that the Agency don't have them on a payroll, as the client pays them, but then the question is begged... if the Agency girls are Independent and doing their own work. Why are they paying them 50%? Which is over and above the costs involved?

[Lucy Chambers]

Not entirely correct, as the agency will advertise on their behalf and arrange for their photo's to be taken and make their bookings for them. This means they are taking on the reputation of the Agency and therefore they are not generating their own work. If is is not quite the same as freelance, as when you normally work freelance you get paid for the work done, not have money taken away from you and the Agency is not paying them.

If you compare this with say a modelling agency. A reputable one would not charge them for creating a porfolio and they will actively look for work on their behalf and arrange interviews for them. They then also take a cut for any work generated, but it would be nothing like 50% and a lot more hands on work and tailored to the individuals needs.

I guess we do have a grey area, which is that the Agency don't have them on a payroll, as the client pays them, but then the question is begged... if the Agency girls are Independent and doing their own work. Why are they paying them 50%? Which is over and above the costs involved?

30 percent would be the maximum any UK agency would take, and most would throw in a Driver at that. I agree with the rest of your post entirely. The costs are far lower than any 50 percent. High profits will always attract criminal elements.

[funlover12]

I didn't say "always equal". But the overwhelming number of people 'running' others for sex work are using coercion of some degree and taking a clearly disproportionate share of the wages. And are the ones responsible for trafficking.

you do realise its a boss' job to 'coerce' their workers dont you in ANY form of work?. get the idea that agency = coerced out of your head.

dont tar all agencies with the same brush

as has been said there are very good reasons for a girl to work for an agency, agencies are not bad, just illegal and some bad people run them, so its like saying all footballers are drunken gambling thick people!

you cant generalise!