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    I read this earlier this evening and honestly folks my jaw almost hit the floor - at long last so many truths about Ireland's sex industry spoken by someone in authority.

    Dr. Derek Freedman's presentation

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    ...but it is not *JUST* the truths, it is the way he tells 'em.



    A lovely, wise, sane man....

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    Dr Freedman is an absolute gent, full of warmth, and a breath of fresh air. His views were balanced and fair, and it is absolutely great that men like him are in our health service for those in need.

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    Thanks to the poster. A very interesting article indeed.

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    Well done from Dr.Freedman!
    As you said ''Banjaxed'',it is absolutelly fair and realistic.I wish that politicians and Ruamma would understand they can't stop prostitution and they sould help to keep that ''world'' privat and safe.

    If I wolud be law-maker I'd legalize and obligate us to pay tax,in that way escorts would feel safer and the coutry would have much more income.
    "People will forget what you said,people will forget what you did,
    but people will never forget how you made them feel."

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    Quote Originally Posted by Lia1 View Post
    Well done from Dr.Freedman!
    As you said ''Banjaxed'',it is absolutelly fair and realistic.I wish that politicians and Ruamma would understand they can't stop prostitution and they sould help to keep that ''world'' privat and safe.

    If I wolud be law-maker I'd legalize and obligate us to pay tax,in that way escorts would feel safer and the coutry would have much more income.
    What I took from the conference, and what I resolutely believe is that you Ladies deserve absolutely nothing less.

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    Thanks HMHD. It's great to see Sexwork.ie putting up transcripts of what was said at the conference. I am hoping they will put up what was said by Pye Jacobson.

    They have already put up the transcripts of the talk by Linda Latham, of the Women's health project http://sexwork.ie/2012/10/22/linda-latham/. Amber already alluded to how dissapointing she was (in another thread).

    Here's an excerpt of what she said:

    Victims of trafficking, women in prostitution are the same women. Men buy sex off both of those women. The roots for women into the sex industry are wholly different and I’ve got total appreciation of that, but they are the same women who have the same issues.

    Apparently someone in the audience replied loudly, "Absolutely not!!" (Well done! Whoever you are )

    Her work seems to have been focussed on street sex workers and also victims of trafficking. So unfortunately, she is coming from a biased perspective already. She is very pro Sweden (not just the Swedish model) and thinks that the country is so very enlightened!!!

    But here seems to be the crunch of the matter:

    Ensure specialist services continue under umbrella organisations. Our service is at critical risk actually, of closing at the moment, because we haven’t got the staff or the funding to continue, although we are a statutory service.

    At the end of the day, any group that depends on government funding will continue to perpetuate and exagerate a problem because that is how they get funding.

    And herein lies the problem. We are never going to be getting a balanced rational opinion from any of these NGO's, as a result.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Morpheus View Post
    Apparently someone in the audience replied loudly, "Absolutely not!!" (Well done! Whoever you are )
    I hope she won't (or get Lucy to) beat me to a pulp for saying it, but I believe that was Amber as part of a chorus.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Morpheus View Post
    At the end of the day, any group that depends on government funding will continue to perpetuate and exagerate a problem because that is how they get funding.
    ...and that fact is at the root of about 50% of the problems in the world...

    Incidentally, she may be familiar with street workers but she doesn't seem to pay their reality much heed, as little or none of the things she said applied to them either.

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    Any organisation purporting to act in the best interests of any particular group should be unbiased and non judgemental.

    I have a friend who worked for the Genesis project in Leeds, a church funded group. She did tell me that the group of workers that they were coming into contact with least were independent indoor workers and so they made it their business to contact every single one advertised in the area and make it known that they were available. They would do condom deliveries, arrange sexual health checks under anonymous names, and make workers aware of bad clients in the area. Infact, if anyone needed anything at all in the way of support, they would do their damndest to help.

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