Reviews.....

[lorna123]

i belive in free speech always have always will

if i get a review and its not so good , then i will take on was client has said and do my best 2 change/do a better service as feed back is always good

i no im not every 1 s cup off t and expect something said

that s my thoughts not trying 2 upset r offend any 1 not in my nature

take care

rachel

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c u all in june

[bigpaws]

Bigpaws, Are you anti-censorship in every aspect of life, I myself am anti-censorship but I have to take issue with the statement ‘’people are either pro-censorship or anti-censorship’’ that’s very similar to Bush’s “you either with us or against us’’ and look where that got them. Would you as an example publish the name of a sex offender when you know that would distroy the victims anonimity, I would hope you would not and if so then you have to accept there is a place for “censorship’’ for the good of the vulnerable, here I would class Children of Escorts as Vulnerable if there friends found out say, unfortunately there are always Grey area’s, very little is Black & White.

But just stay in the this arena, honest reviews are vital, and welcomed by Genuine Escort’s themselves, you say you will post elsewhere and I don’t doubt you will be fair, but just as an example suppose an Escort who has opted for partial review for reasons stated has a post that has a Graphic description made, now that for me would come under the heading of voyeurism, albeit Verbal, as what was something private has been made unnecessarily detailed against the wish’s of one party. And voyeurism was not listed on that Escort’s favorites,

So my point is how can you campaign for the exposing of Escorts who list things and don’t do them and not be in favor of the weeding out of a voyeuristic element to some review’s when Escorts never stated that as a Favorite.

Put a lot of worth in your opinion but your wrong in defending total Anti-censorship as Escorts do not have redress to taking Libel proceeding’s as would anyone else in any other profession...

Real people could have real implications because of this stand...pls. reconsider

PS she is control of her own Site and can augment profile here but not control unwanted comments relating to a private meeting.

In the case of either being "with" George Bush or against him then it IS that simple ......... whether he is right or wrong (wrong obviously!!) you ARE with him or against, no grey area there for me.

All children are effected by a parents decisions in life but I don't believe that should impact on MY right to freedom of speech.

Voyeurism??? Any escort who is concerned about being the victim of voyeurism should not post revealing sexual photographs of themselves on the internet .......... are you seriously using voyeurism as a reason for not allowing full reviews?? Please say you are not!!!

Yes you are right that Alexi is in control of her own site .......... she is also in control of her Favourites Enjoyed listed on her profile here (she chose to add them), she also in control of which pictures to put on her profile here (she chose some very nice but very sexy pictures), she also has the right to accept/deny reviews here (she has chosen to accept them) ................ and the pictures on her profile are much more explicit than the ones on this site anyway!!

I love Alexi, she is indeed the Number One escort currently working (in my opinion anyway) and she is a great girl all-round, if all escorts were like her (providing a great service with no hidden extras, genuine pics etc) then there would be no need for any reviews of any kind at all ........... but that is not the case, the escort business is filled with Bad Escorts and that is why a full review system is necessary to seperate escorts like Alexi from those Bad Escorts....... it is those Bad Escorts that will take advantage of this new "partial" review system, I know from experience.

Paws

[Honey/Alexi D]

My reasons are personal, not legal/illegal or really just about my kids. Yes my prifile does say one thing on the other hand its not up when I'm not here, the reviews are....... This means anyone I know at home could see, it was due to a very spiteful person before that I stopped coming, and didn't allow reviews. Yes my situation is complicated but none the less important to me. And I do feel I was bullied into the review thing as my business went down because my pictures were not varified and wouldn't be unless I take reviews. People can see whats on my profile and what I do so why do they need Favourite things listed? cant they just say, she does what she says or even I was satisfied?

Also it kills me when I see owo,cim....etc why not just gfe or/and pse... I would be ok with that but to have each one listed when I still reserve the right to choose and refuse just gives others ammo to write bad things just because of maybe their hygiene...... How is that fair. I give each person I see the best there is to offer, why should I have other people expecting something or a service that was " For your eyes only "?


Look unless I'm willing to bare my soul its not worth trying to keep explaining this over and over. I'm good with the change, unlike some I dont relish vulgarities, and if it make people happy perhaps I should just stop taking reviews all together. Yes I am a little annoyed, but I will not allow others to undermine my reasons which are genuine and serious to ME... and for me to be comfortable and to be able to give you guys the best I can, then I have certain requirments and needs too.

But they are only my reasons and not for others to exploite, question, or belittle. Just show some respect by trying to accept it even if you dont get it.

After this post I do not want to be the topic of anyones threads about why I do or dont like reviews, I'm great at what I do, without a doubt so why I dont like or want certain things should not come into question. I'm not hiding something horrific from you guys.

[bigpaws]

Alexi this isn't really about you at all ............ my concern regards the other less than professional escorts.

You are the best and if I had my way you wouldn't have any Favourites listed, any reviews posted, even any pictures on your profile .............. just an icon on the top of each page on this site saying "Ireland's Best Escort" with your tour details and mobile number.

I don't think you need to explain your own personal reasons on here why the review system effects you nor do I want you to ........... you don't need to defend yourself or your services, I would be honoured to take on the role of Alexi Defender myself!!

Business is good for you, punters know about you and will continue to fall at your knees .......... be happy and ignore this thread, it's really not about you personally at all, believe that!!!

Paws

[Quarterpoundher]

Thanks for responding Bigpaws, I like a good debate, to the issue of George Bush, he made that statement in the rawness of post 911 and had the effect of silencing nations who oppose terrorism but had valid concerns as to US strategy/policy for fear of angering a wounded tiger and being branded sympathetic or weak or even an ‘’Evil Doer” themselves. You could see the UK being sucked right in from the moment Blair was hailed “Friend” by Bush during his visit to Congress shortly after, and was a prisoner to him ever after. English Soldiers are dying because of that suction effect. That’s what I mean by the Danger of only being given the option of being With us or Against us, and is why now most are against, but at the time the raw emotion of U.S. would not allow that.

As to
“All children are effected by a parents decisions in life but I don't believe that should impact on MY right to freedom of speech”

I agree of course Children are affected by the decisions of there Parent’s, that’s not what I asked, I asked would you in defense of your right to free Speech/anti-censorship if in a position to name a sex offender, name him knowing that the victim (Possibly a child) would then be in the public domain YES or NO
As if people know the perpetrator they then know the victim, especially in rural area’s as I personally know a family going through hell right now and are tied up in knots not being able to name this character for fear of pushing the child over the edge if they became known, and you are claiming the right for nothing to impact on your right to freedom of speech.

I talking’ REAL LIVE CHILDREN here and not with respect just the danger of a Punter being done out of a few Euro. Is your commitment to anti-censorship that total??? Again YES or NO as your answer will affect my view of you and maybe other’s also..Please tell me I have not put some faith in someone who would do that in defense of Total Free Speech/anti-censorship

If your staunchness to free speech is to this realm, that’s slightly different as Escorts have voluntarily entered this site.

To your question,
Voyeurism??? Any escort who is concerned about being the victim of voyeurism should not post revealing sexual photographs of themselves on the internet ... are you seriously using voyeurism as a reason for not allowing full reviews?? Please say you are not!!!

They have of the own volition supplied such material so no I am not, I am saying that those that have opted out of Explicit reviews and that has not been respected then that is in my view a form of Voyeurism that has not been given consent to, surely you concede that. If client meet after they have switched to Limited review and is fully aware of that, they should honor that and be honest but tactful, tact was all that was asked here, and if they can’t then yes be removed. I defer to you on issues of it being taken advantage of by dishonest Escort’s as I fully admit I don’t know anything about that. And a very Human face has been put on the reason's why they opt for this, and if it means a few dishonest people seek by, then tough.

Best regards and await response

[Honey/Alexi D]

Thanks for responding Bigpaws, I like a good debate, to the issue of George Bush, he made that statement in the rawness of post 911 and had the effect of silencing nations who oppose terrorism but had valid concerns as to US strategy/policy for fear of angering a wounded tiger and being branded sympathetic or weak or even an ‘’Evil Doer” themselves. You could see the UK being sucked right in from the moment Blair was hailed “Friend” by Bush during his visit to Congress shortly after, and was a prisoner to him ever after. English Soldiers are dying because of that suction effect. That’s what I mean by the Danger of only being given the option of being With us or Against us, and is why now most are against, but at the time the raw emotion of U.S. would not allow that.

As to
“All children are effected by a parents decisions in life but I don't believe that should impact on MY right to freedom of speech”

I agree of course Children are affected by the decisions of there Parent’s, that’s not what I asked, I asked would you in defense of your right to free Speech/anti-censorship if in a position to name a sex offender, name him knowing that the victim (Possibly a child) would then be in the public domain YES or NO
As if people know the perpetrator they then know the victim, especially in rural area’s as I personally know a family going through hell right now and are tied up in knots not being able to name this character for fear of pushing the child over the edge if they became known, and you are claiming the right for nothing to impact on your right to freedom of speech.

I talking’ REAL LIVE CHILDREN here and not with respect just the danger of a Punter being done out of a few Euro. Is your commitment to anti-censorship that total??? Again YES or NO as your answer will affect my view of you and maybe other’s also..Please tell me I have not put some faith in someone who would do that in defense of Total Free Speech/anti-censorship

If your staunchness to free speech is to this realm, that’s slightly different as Escorts have voluntarily entered this site.

To your question,
Voyeurism??? Any escort who is concerned about being the victim of voyeurism should not post revealing sexual photographs of themselves on the internet ... are you seriously using voyeurism as a reason for not allowing full reviews?? Please say you are not!!!

They have of the own volition supplied such material so no I am not, I am saying that those that have opted out of Explicit reviews and that has not been respected then that is in my view a form of Voyeurism that has not been given consent to, surely you concede that. If client meet after they have switched to Limited review and is fully aware of that, they should honor that and be honest but tactful, tact was all that was asked here, and if they can’t then yes be removed. I defer to you on issues of it being taken advantage of by dishonest Escort’s as I fully admit I don’t know anything about that. And a very Human face has been put on the reason's why they opt for this, and if it means a few dishonest people seek by, then tough.

Best regards and await response

Hi my sweet.

I Would like the oppotunity to defend paws on this. I've known Paws on this site for a while now, and have to say this man has campaigned hard for the CLIENTS, so that they can get the truth. I am one Escort/Lady with a very real reason, not to say that there aren't a few more but what I know he is deathly affriad of is that all his hard work will be undone with all the agency/bad/ and damn right horrific service providers out there hiding behind the partial review system. And I do agree with him on that.

I personally think that in the case of a very bad service, perhaps if you put on it to contact you, the client directly thus ensuring that it is a fellow client that is interested in the details. They could PM you or if there is a private part of the site where members that are established only can visit and more details could be put there.

I am the last person that wants a fellow E-I members work to go undone as I know he to understands my personal battle with this, But he is doing it for you guys, and you know as well as I do in your heart of hearts that Paw's as tough as he is would NEVER allow a child to suffer for anothers crimes. He just doesn't like the hard working clients being ripped off time and time again by girls that dont put as much time, care and heart into what they do as I may.

In Paw's eyes and many others, if there was more like me, providing the service I do, then you wouldn't even need this thread.

I hope this answers your question darling. Take it easy on Paw's he is doing this for the right reasons.

[bigpaws]

Ok Quarterpoundher (still love that name, makes me laugh every time!!) on the subject of George Bush ........... ah I can't be arsed!! He's a prick, that's the quick easy answer.

On a more serious subject, and a not so easy one to answer, regarding protecting the identity of a child who has suffered at the hands of a sexual predator I'm torn ........... of course I wouldn't like to see a child go through anymore pain but I also would hate to think that would mean the abuser would be free and go unpunished ........... I guess I don't have an answer to that one and I'm glad that I don't have to make those kinds of agonising decisions in life.
But I will say that I think it's a little low and a bit of a cheap shot to use child abuse as leverage in a discussion about censorship ........... I expected more from what I consider to be a candidate for the most intelligent poster on here. Nobody's perfect (least of all me) so I forgive you on that one Quarterpoundher.

As for the voyeurism regarding escorts reviews .......... it just doesn't fly with me. They post provocative pictures and explicit adverts AND they do have the option of not allowing reviews at all so .......... no, a fear of voyeurism is not a logical reason for an escort to opt out of full reviews, sorry.

I have read recently a couple of punters on here saying they will only post positive reviews but I am on the opposite side of that fence as I feel the negative ones are more important .......... my campaign for full reviews is not designed to hurt the Good Escorts such as Alexi (actually the Best Escort ......... have I mentioned that before??) but rather to expose the Bad Escorts.

Paws

ps By the way Quarterpoundher you are new here so I'll forgive you for not being aware of this yet but I really don't care about what people's views/opinions of me are which allows me to be so honest (brutally honest at times I admit) so saying "this may affect mine and others views of you" really holds no water with me, sorry again.

[bigpaws]

Thanks for that Alexi and you are right in everything you said but you left one thing out .......... I have not only campaigned for the clients, I have also campaigned hard for the good ESCORTS ............... did you not see my opinions of you sweetheart????

Hit that link (which I am proud to see you still have) in your signature and you will see what I think of you and the other Good Escorts!!!

Honey/Alexi D
"In Paw's eyes and many others, if there was more like me, providing the service I do, then you wouldn't even need this thread."
The most accurate statement yet seen on this thread!!!

Paws

[BruceAlmighty]

Have to say I'm with the anti-censorship crowd here. This is no slight against Alexi, Malena, Lorna or the other escorts who have posted their reasoned arguments here. Personally, I am tired of escorts who false advertise their favourites - I always ask when I call to make sure - and never cease to be amazed when the escort sounds surprised you asked for a favourite they supposedly offer, but really don't.

[Which is why I keep going back to Malena and Carmen and highly recommend them!]

The number of sexually graphic reviews are only a small percentage. I agree with bigpaws that this will be abused, and very quickly and to me, an escort accepting partial reviews is the same as one accepting none.

[Quarterpoundher]

Hello Bigpaws, Thanks again, you’re a tonic. First on Bush I agree and what the F**k could we do about it anyway, To Alexi if you see this, as I posted elsewhere I have real respect for his opinion/contribution, I only know of him from here, but he jumped out at me as most definitely a totally fair and straight shooter and care’s about both side’s, and they are rare and in a short time have come to trust what he says but with influence comes responsibly. I have not seen him abuse that influence and doubt, in fact am certain he would not, but my CORE CORE point was the stance taken of total Freedom of expression in the wider world and in all situations. And I know he would never allow a Child to suffer for another’s crimes, I never said that, which is why he could not if in my position exercise 100% freedom of Expression.


Bigpaws, if you saw it as a low blow, it truly was not intended as such, that’s not me, its just on my radar as they are friends of mine and the situation is not one that the Perpetrator is getting away with it as thankfully the Child, astonishingly bravely, screamed from the rooftops that something was wrong to Parent’s and as a result another Child next door came to light as being in danger thankfully it did not progress to a worse level as Perp. was in I guess what you would call the grooming stage and ingratiating himself into Family/s but are still shaken by it and don’t want it known (IE Media) and charge’s are pending.. And as we know that regretfully he will not be named on assumed conviction to protect the Children. I was merely using it as a very real example that I and others find ourselves in of freedom of speech sometimes having to take a back seat as we are forced to censor ourselves so I know FOE is not 100% all of the time. We all want the world to know, but cannot so would you agree if you found yourself in that Sit. If no other you too would have to do the same and hence free speech is not 100% total. That’s all.

I won’t get into the in’s and out’s of Reviews as I’ve already said I defer to you and others on that, other then to say that if someone wants no review, fine, Overly graphic reviews, fine, but something in between is also required for some Escorts as was very eloquently put by Alexi D and there wishes should be respected, I know you would respect the wish’s of those you know are genuine, others might not. And I do feel that anyone that posts what an Escort feels is Graphic when she has gone for Partial review is what I would call a form of Voyeurism that has not been consented to (Consent being the key word) maybe there is a better term them Voyeurism, I can’t think of what might be a better term. That’s the nearest.

Btw, I use the term Escort a lot and not Lady, Women, it’s not meant as clinical or anything, It’s just in difference to Male Escorts as well, Straight or Gay, I assume there out there.

I hope I have clarified that and if unknowinly caused offense or was misinterpreted, I’m sorry, unlike U.S Pres. Campaigns, I will never go negative, not me.

PS I was reading about that Billy Kehoe case and have some thoughts on it but I have not ever started a thread, would I be overstepping the mark to do so, (not sure how you start a thread) I have a 1000 monkeys on a 1000 typewriters and they sometimes come up with something coherent LOL...

Best Regard’s
Can't reply for while, Mare In Foal (I Breed Horse's)