One final word!

[Patricia]

Ninebythree in Irish escorting. It's like saying pol pot in Cambodia. It's just a filthy horrible word associated with so much hurt.

[Lucy Chambers]

I believe it's both. I know of many escorts who have had problem with ninebythree where I believe it is the "real" ninebythree for want of a better term. I also believe there are ninebythree importers. I know of 1 threatener who impersonates ninebythree for sure. I've no doubt there are more. Its a horrible subject because it's so nasty people are afraid to speak about it. Not you obviously Lucy, obviously you've had no issues with ninebythrees real or pretend, but I know many ladies here who have been deeply upset and hurt by the actions of a person calling himself ninebythree. Honestly if there is a real ninebythree out there who is not out to hurt people, change your name would be my advice.

Not just me Pat, there are lots of girls on this forum who have met the person who called himself Ninebythree here. Still do meet him no doubt, he is a busy client. I dont know if you are referring to the threatener some years ago who was using his name, I assume so. I have no problem discussing nasty subjects, exactly what did the real Ninebythree do after his ban from here? I assume you werent aware of these things while he was reviews mod, so i would guess that this was post 09?

[LaBelleThatcher]

Where do you get your facts?

I have sources of information I cannot possibly reveal (but they are good, aren't they? ), but this:

So why do Niner and IIE place such a priority on strategies to derail independent sex worker participation in the Department of Justice consultation process and maintain such close ties with "Turn Off the Red Light" and the gutter press?

Happens, blatantly, right out in the open...where anyone with half a brain can see it for themselves. People are just too scared of Niner and his pet bullies to call it what it really is,...well I'm not.

The lot of them shot their bolt with me when they derailed any meaningful participation in the consultation, weeks ago...(and WHAT ON EARTH GOOD PURPOSE COULD THEY POSSIBLY HAVE FOR DOING THAT?)

That cannot be reversed, and there is literally nothing else they can do to harm me, or use to intimidate me.

*shrugs*

[Amy Alison]

What a bunch of crap has been said in some posts.

Just to recall for whoever wants to read this thread in a few simple points:


IIE does not hate E-I. Only its owners and some of the ways things are done over here. Same things that most of you don't agree with. In addition to that, they also find some individuals here very irritating or very stupid, depending on the case. Nothing wrong with that, we all do the same - i.e. have some strong opinion about some nut cases.

Belle Thacher is either a paranoid megalomaniac either is the most verbal badly informed person I have even seen. IIE site discuss things about anybody that tend to stand out in some way or another. Nobody has made her public inamy number one and things don't work like that over there anyway.

Qeenbee had the worst idea of starting such a thread. But I would not say the thread was pointless

Ninebythree is a well respected client that have seen hundreds and hundreds of escorts but beside this he is a very normal person. He's been around forums for years and years, at some stage he's been a poster and a review moderator on this site too. He strongly believes that this site is associated with pimping and such and he was banned for his strong believes. After his banning, IIE became his "home" where he can post what he feels like. I don't have the time to follow his activity on Twitter but I can guarantee that he is the one man that would give all his support and understanding to genuine independent escorts. Like many others, I have met him and the idea that's been said here that he has threaten escorts is just ridiculous. In fact he was the one that was being publicly abused in a well known escort blog and guess what, that escort is well and works in Cork anytime she wants with no problem.

How the heck Ruhama comes into this thread, I have no idea but the only one opinion NBT may share with Ruhama is the opinion that any sane person must have too: do now allow / agree / support in any way trafficking in the sex industry. As far as I am concerned, any other Ruhama opinion is just laughable, especially the one that no woman comes into the sex industry willingly.

[Patricia]

Not just me Pat, there are lots of girls on this forum who have met the person who called himself Ninebythree here. Still do meet him no doubt, he is a busy client. I dont know if you are referring to the threatener some years ago who was using his name, I assume so. I have no problem discussing nasty subjects, exactly what did the real Ninebythree do after his ban from here? I assume you werent aware of these things while he was reviews mod, so i would guess that this was post 09?

Im not going to be able to get into discussing ongoing police investigations on this message board. It will all be in the papers when the cases reach court etc, after that I can comment but not before. I do believe there will be more than one "ninebythree" before the courts, thus clearly showing not all the "ninebythree" stuff has been one person.

[Lucy Chambers]

Im not going to be able to get into discussing ongoing police investigations on this message board. It will all be in the papers when the cases reach court etc, after that I can comment but not before. I do believe there will be more than one "ninebythree" before the courts, thus clearly showing not all the "ninebythree" stuff has been one person.

I am kind of shocked that you thought it ok to mention any of that then, without being sure who was who. As Amy stated above, many of us know a ninebythree, and he is a nice client. Hey ho, I guess we shall have to wait for the courtcase.

[LaBelleThatcher]

I don't read IIE.

Since ninebythree left we have had multiple requests from multiple police forces for the info we hold on him. This is due to numerous people making complaints to numerous police forces that he has been threatening or harassing them. I know some of these complaints have been genuine. I also know some of them have been not genuine, in the context that "ninebythree" has become so associated with trouble making, you get trouble makers who are nothing to do with the person who originally used the name "ninebythree" here making threats on sites like twitter and sending text messages signing them "ninebythree", so escorts complain to the police about "ninebythree" but it may not be anything to do with the person who originally used the name ninebythree here.

To me "ninebythree" has become a term synonymous with hurt being caused to escorts, and others, as I note not all the victims are escorts. It's a horrible word and I'm sorry to see a thread about it here.

Why are we talking about this?

Pat...what you have here is just a complex stalker, and a bully...and in my mind, if no-one else's, there will never be a level on which it becomes:

"Ok because Ruhama and Paul Connolly say so"

It's *not* ok...and the stupid idiots who are playing along with him are just setting themselves up for a world of grief in the future...I have seen it all happen before...well this time, frankly, I couldn't give a damn...they are bringing it upon themselves...

[Lucy Chambers]

Pat...what you have here is just a complex stalker, and a bully...and in my mind, if no-one else's, there will never be a level on which it becomes:

"Ok because Ruhama and Paul Connolly say so"

It's *not* ok...and the stupid idiots who are playing along with him are just setting themselves up for a world of grief in the future...I have seen it all happen before...well this time, frankly, I couldn't give a damn...they are bringing it upon themselves...

I think you haven't earned the right to call us stupid. I shall refrain from saying what I think about you, other than to say I am an Independent escort and I am not represented by you, or by any client. Now keep on touting your nonsense, Im through humouring it.

[Patricia]

I am kind of shocked that you thought it ok to mention any of that then, without being sure who was who. As Amy stated above, many of us know a ninebythree, and he is a nice client. Hey ho, I guess we shall have to wait for the courtcase.

There are "ninebythree" threats going around constantly. It's not a big secret. I know there are numerous people using the name "ninebythree". You say you and other ladies know one "ninebythree" who is a nice client. Here, we don't know any person, we just know of the constant threats ladies are subjected to by persons calling themselves "ninebythree" and associated police investigations and court cases. Given there are multiple cases and the speed it takes for cases to get through the courts here, I fear I'll still be hearing the name "ninebythree" 7 years from now. This is a bizarre conversation because we are talking about an online nickname numerous people use. The only thing I find odd is, if there is a decent or multiple decent people using that name, why don't they use something else!?! I guess you could say it is their right to use that name if they wish, but it is like Pol Pot in Cambodia at this stage!

[Lucy Chambers]

There are "ninebythree" threats going around constantly. It's not a big secret. I know there are numerous people using the name "ninebythree". You say you and other ladies know one "ninebythree" who is a nice client. Here, we don't know any person, we just know of the constant threats ladies are subjected to by persons calling themselves "ninebythree" and associated police investigations and court cases. Given there are multiple cases and the speed it takes for cases to get through the courts here, I fear I'll still be hearing the name "ninebythree" 7 years from now. This is a bizarre conversation because we are talking about an online nickname numerous people use. The only thing I find odd is, if there is a decent or multiple decent people using that name, why don't they use something else!?! I guess you could say it is their right to use that name if they wish, but it is like Pol Pot in Cambodia at this stage!

To who? Clearly half of uis dont know the story, so Cambodia just got mighty small. If there is an issue, why isnt the client we all know being warned what is being done?