Not guilty

[Banjaxed]

One of them was on the phone at 2.45pm when Michaela McAreavey was supposed to have been strangled, so it seems in the jury's mind that proved beyond a reasonable doubt that he wasn't involved. As for the other guy, they believed his story that his signed confession was a fabrication. There was no DNA evidence from either of the accused in the hotel room. It seems most likely that the cops fucked up the investigation more than anything.

It's known as the least corrupt legal system in the continent of Africa and is predominantly based on the common law, the same as this country, but then everyone says the system in this country is corrupt too, so you can't win

[Doozer]

One of them was on the phone at 2.45pm when Michaela McAreavey was supposed to have been strangled, so it seems in the jury's mind that proved beyond a reasonable doubt that he wasn't involved. As for the other guy, they believed his story that his signed confession was a fabrication. There was no DNA evidence from either of the accused in the hotel room. It seems most likely that the cops fucked up the investigation more than anything.

It's known as the least corrupt legal system in the continent of Africa and is predominantly based on the common law, the same as this country, but then everyone says the system in this country is corrupt too, so you can't win

Juries eh, dont have a fucking clue most of the time, I would agree that the police probably did fuck it up alright

[Banjaxed]

Juries eh, dont have a fucking clue most of the time, I would agree that the police probably did fuck it up alright

12 ordinary people decide your fate. Would you trust 12 people off the street to make choices concerning your life? I think not. But that's the system and it was thought to be fair when it was started.

[Doozer]

12 ordinary people decide your fate. Would you trust 12 people off the street to make choices concerning your life? I think not. But that's the system and it was thought to be fair when it was started.

Yeas qw ordinary people who have to sift their brains through legal jargon most of them time not been made clear what certain types of evidence is admissible or actually if its valid at all.

Take DNA for example , the layman wouldnt have a clue about it really, what it is, or what it entails or how easily its contaminated. They just hear hollywood and are sucked in to the CSI effect

Secondly take eye witness testimoney, they (more than likely) would see that as irrifutible proof of guilt and take it as gospel when in actuality its the worst and most unrealible evidence ever

Ordinary men deciding your fate.

Im just glad they arent defending me for anything serious

[rubberlover]

I think the real issue here is that they two people charged we fingered by a person who was given immunity, and who I believe was the true suspect. Incompetence by the cops, to be fair no evidence was found to convict the two men. And I would believe that neither family Harte or Mc Areavy would want someone innocent jailed, but must feel an awful sense of injustice and let's hope the killer is found and jailed.

On an interesting side line does anyone recall the poor Bulgarian father who came here recently seeking justice for his two children, knocked down killed by an Irishman driving in Bulgaria, but who the Irish courts REFUSED to extradite to answer the summons.

I don't think we can really finger point or cry foul, now can we.

[warmcome]

i didn't expect a murder conviction given the circumstances in this case,
will there be a retrial for manslaughter?

[TiffanyTees]

Whatever the rights and wrongs of the case you can't imagine what both Michaela and Johns families have gone through over the seven weeks of this clusterfuck


Tiff xxx

[Sexy Samantha British]

thats really sad news and i feel so bad for the familys. and if someone else (big if there) is arrested the families have to go through all of this again. I know it would never bring her back but a guilty verdict would have been closure and the start of the healing process.

[very shy guy]

I think the real issue here is that they two people charged we fingered by a person who was given immunity, and who I believe was the true suspect. Incompetence by the cops, to be fair no evidence was found to convict the two men. And I would believe that neither family Harte or Mc Areavy would want someone innocent jailed, but must feel an awful sense of injustice and let's hope the killer is found and jailed.

On an interesting side line does anyone recall the poor Bulgarian father who came here recently seeking justice for his two children, knocked down killed by an Irishman driving in Bulgaria, but who the Irish courts REFUSED to extradite to answer the summons.

I don't think we can really finger point or cry foul, now can we.

A very good point RL,his feet should not have touched the ground he should have been extradited so fast,as for DNA edvidence,well at times the full case is never brought in Ireland,and people do get away with murder here,sometimes its called man slaughter sometimes aquitted thanks to our legal system,Banjaxed knows far more than most on here how the law works,but there has been some horrific cases over the last 20 years that have seen miscarrages of justice.

[Lincoln]

I think the real issue here is that they two people charged we fingered by a person who was given immunity, and who I believe was the true suspect. Incompetence by the cops, to be fair no evidence was found to convict the two men. And I would believe that neither family Harte or Mc Areavy would want someone innocent jailed, but must feel an awful sense of injustice and let's hope the killer is found and jailed.

On an interesting side line does anyone recall the poor Bulgarian father who came here recently seeking justice for his two children, knocked down killed by an Irishman driving in Bulgaria, but who the Irish courts REFUSED to extradite to answer the summons.

I don't think we can really finger point or cry foul, now can we.

It happened in Budapest in Hungary actually. I'm not sure how much good it does muddying the water by comparing two completely different types of case. I heard the Birmingham Six being cited as an example of confession under duress but again in that case the was an avalanche of physical evidence to corroborate the fact that those six me were beaten within an inch of their lives to force a confession (not so in the Mauritius case, merely an unsubstantiated allegation of duress).

The whole investigation was a fuck up from start to finish. Tin pot police and tin pot judciary (not actually a crime to be so I hasten to add)

My main problem is with the conduct of the trial. No effort to preserve the dignity of her memory and a defence counsel who were allowed to sling shit unlimited to see what would stick. The conduct of the gallery was disgusting as well.

Hang your collective heads in shame people of Mauritius.