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    Quote Originally Posted by bill7 View Post
    I don't smoke, so the chances are good that I will live longer than those who do. I eat healthily and am not obese, so chances are good that I'll live longer than those who are. I drive, so I might have a car crash (I've had two already), but I'm not giving it up. And I like OWO. I don't see the point of oral with a condom. To be perfectly honest, I'd sooner have a wank. I see the risks, just like I do when I cringe at bad drivers in front of me, but I choose to accept that risk - however small or large it might be. And let's be honest here, that risk is a whole lot smaller than the risks associated with smoking and obesity.
    If you drive like a maniac you're more likely to crash. This is similar to making an ill informed choice regarding what sexual services you participate in. The same with smoking, if you smoke then of course you're more likely to die of cancer. Eating too much will end in obesity which carries all sorts of health risks which may lead to death too.

    You cringe when you see bad drivers, I cringe when I see silly comments about how escorts know the risks and see them as minimal when the reality is very different.

    Quote Originally Posted by lilian View Post
    To Alex ( quote is to long ) Note : The list I put up is what you can catch from French Kissing !
    Yes you are right it is about money , the whole job is about money , so may I put the ball back into your basket and ask why an intelligent and well informed women would offer a risky service , in your case French Kissing ?
    Because you love strangers sticking their tong down your throut ? I doubt that !
    Its about being competative , hence money !
    I never challenge the choices others make , because its not my choice to make in the first place , wether I dont like what they do or would never do it myself !
    All the services carry a risk ( broken or sliped off condom , beeing batted over the head by a nasty guy, meeting an escort whos only intention is to rob , literally , the guest of his money and even worse possibilities ), there is no way to stay 100% safe in this job !
    So what we decide to do IS a personal choice and that counts for our guests as well , just because I offer certain services I dont force my guests to participate ( unless asked for ) !
    As long as the ladies are ok with what they offer who are we to judge them ?
    I met girls in this job who vomited after every guest or after practicing a specific service !
    Thats really terrible if one does force herself to do things she is mentally not coping with , just for money !
    The whole world is full of risky things we decide to do anyway , knowingly !
    Smoking , drinking , getting into fights , hell , in some areas of the world taking a stroll can be deadly !
    I know its not really the same as STD/STI and I know where you coming from , but it all comes down to make an educated personal choice !
    I am not defending my choice cause I dont have to do that for anybody , I am just pointing out the obviouse . not much in this job is riskfree and I decided for me what to do and what not !
    Smoking, drinking, getting into fights are not the concern here, knowingly putting yourself and others at risk of contracting std's, is. It's the concern of every escort in the country as we all end up seeing the same clients.

    You talk about being competitive. Tbh, if I felt like I had to compete with other ladies by offering more services and being cheap then I would give up the job. I'd never ever be swayed by what others are offering, as you said that's their choice. It most certainly is not mine.

    Every job is about money, but I don't put any pressure on myself to earn a certain amount. I used to, but that was when I was young and naive. Now I'm more experienced and realise what's important in life. My health is my wealth. It's the same for all of us.

    Lots in this job is risk free. Going out for dinner with a Gentleman for instance, or being taken to see a show Mind you, you'll probably tell me I'm at risk of choking on my dinner and there could be a fire in the theater so I might die there or something...... Actually, many of my regular clients would never ever see a lady who lets stangers cum in her mouth. They use their big heads when such serious decisions, thankfully

    Quote Originally Posted by lilian View Post
    Thats what I am talking about as well , if I dont make a huge mistake that Syphilis and Gonorrhea are include in this category ?!
    A nurse has regulations in the job she is doing , she HAS to wear gloves .
    By offering OWO and CIM I am not breaking any regulations in the job " ESCORT" !
    I educate myself , way the risks and decide what I want to offer ! Thats an educated choice !
    If you see that as irresponsible , ok ! If you see that as selfish , I agree with you !
    I run a business not a charity , I compete with other ladies and if I think that offering a certain service ( which I considered riskworthy ) gives me a headstart , I will do so !
    Unless somebody pays my bills or shows me the regulations by law , I will not let other people make dicissions regarding MY business !
    I though will take advice , I am not stupid !
    We all run business's. I don't see how offering different services gives you a head start tbh. You're not considering the clients who have enough self respect not to risk their health in search of the perfect oral without a condom. They do exist, I promise you that You can be a great escort without doing all those risky things. But I suppose it's much like everything else, it depends how you see things and what your target market is.

    I don't allow others to dictate how I do things either. But common sense dictates a whole lot for me.

    Quote Originally Posted by UKHeather View Post
    I appreciate your reply and respect your choices. I guess I haven't reached that stage where I feel I have to be competitive and will do anything for money, including putting my own health and that of others at unnecessary risk.
    That common sense I was talking about, right there
    He felt her hands slide slowly up his thigh, he couldn't stop himself from growing hard. She caught his eye and in that second he knew: This erotic, sensual Lady is bold if she is anything. She would be upto mischief in no time...
    Some things never change

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    The whiff of moral superiority.

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    Quote Originally Posted by bill7 View Post
    The whiff of moral superiority.
    You have that mixed up with The Whiff of Social Responsibility
    He felt her hands slide slowly up his thigh, he couldn't stop himself from growing hard. She caught his eye and in that second he knew: This erotic, sensual Lady is bold if she is anything. She would be upto mischief in no time...
    Some things never change

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    Quote Originally Posted by bill7 View Post
    The whiff of moral superiority.
    The post of the not capable of or qualified for responsibility type

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    Quote Originally Posted by bill7 View Post
    The whiff of moral superiority.
    Oh I don't know - My morals are pretty loose.

    Still, better than the whiff of gonorrhea I'd say
    Last edited by UKHeather; 16-08-12 at 03:01.

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    morning Heather,
    it is like everything else in life, everyone thinks it will never happen to me so I dont care, unfortunately when it does happen then it is a totally different outlook, these outlooks will never change but maybe just maybe this thread might have made one or two people aware that STI;s are out there, are very easily transmitted, are getting harder and harder to get rid off and do have effects on your body and once you have it and if you are not treated you then become a carrier, so consequences are you contact the STI, then pass it on, if you in a marriage it could lead to issues (divorce etc), if you dont get treated you can have long term effects,
    i dont want to be morbid , people can still have loads of fun once they are careful , as i said in earlier post i used to love cim, owo and reverse oral , but from what is happening in society at the moment i dont do anymore, it just not worth taking a chance,

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    Dear Alex ,
    I am not shure where you take the idea from that offering OWO/CIM puts me and my guests at a extremly higher risk then offering French Kissing !
    When you catch an STI , god forbid it ever happens to any off us , it doesnt matter how you got it !
    If you are convinced all you are doing is fine with what you believe is right I am happy for you !
    But please dont batter ladies and guys who believe all THEY are doing is fine with what THEY believe is right for them !
    You can only do so much as pointing out facts , you cant force anybody to change their ways !

    My concern here is that the risks of catching an STI via French kissing are played down as riskfree and many here seem to believe its only OWO/CIM and uncovered sex that puts them at risk ! ITS NOT !
    Lets be so fair and educated to admit that French Kising is not safe from STIs !

    I offer a service to a different group of guests then you , guests who would see an Escort that offer OWO/CIM would properbly not book with you and versa vi ! Same counts for Escorts who kiss or dont .

    But saying guys who see escorts who do offer OWO/CIM have no selfrespect and only think with their small head is , blantly said , an insult !
    Comments about "silly "escorts and that one can be GREAT escort without offering risky service , will reflect back on you since you have been confronted with facts that YOU offer a risky service as well ...

    I dont mind having a discussion and I dont mind changing my opinion if I think its necessary, but I do mind being insulted for what I do just because is not conform with what other people believe !
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    Quote Originally Posted by lilian View Post
    Dear Alex ,
    I am not shure where you take the idea from that offering OWO/CIM puts me and my guests at a extremly higher risk then offering French Kissing !
    When you catch an STI , god forbid it ever happens to any off us , it doesnt matter how you got it !
    If you are convinced all you are doing is fine with what you believe is right I am happy for you !
    But please dont batter ladies and guys who believe all THEY are doing is fine with what THEY believe is right for them !
    You can only do so much as pointing out facts , you cant force anybody to change their ways !

    My concern here is that the risks of catching an STI via French kissing are played down as riskfree and many here seem to believe its only OWO/CIM and uncovered sex that puts them at risk ! ITS NOT !
    Lets be so fair and educated to admit that French Kising is not safe from STIs !

    I offer a service to a different group of guests then you , guests who would see an Escort that offer OWO/CIM would properbly not book with you and versa vi ! Same counts for Escorts who kiss or dont .

    But saying guys who see escorts who do offer OWO/CIM have no selfrespect and only think with their small head is , blantly said , an insult !
    Comments about "silly "escorts and that one can be GREAT escort without offering risky service , will reflect back on you since you have been confronted with facts that YOU offer a risky service as well ...

    I dont mind having a discussion and I dont mind changing my opinion if I think its necessary, but I do mind being insulted for what I do just because is not conform with what other people believe !
    Don't let it get to you Lilian, you are just the latest in the line to get a mouthful of thinly veiled insults and derogatory comments and you won't be the last. Rise above it, you're better than that. Conduct your business however you see fit and don't let anyone belittle you or tell you otherwise

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    Quote Originally Posted by Disco Biscuit View Post
    Don't let it get to you Lilian, you are just the latest in the line to get a mouthful of thinly veiled insults and derogatory comments and you won't be the last. Rise above it, you're better than that. Conduct your business however you see fit and don't let anyone belittle you or tell you otherwise
    No worries , if I wouldnt be able to stand up for myself I would be in deep sh**

    I am just stunned and shocked by the display of double morals and the inability of selfreflection shown here !

    The insults I do mind , veiled or not , cause nobody here knows me so well to have the right to make judgements about my characters , but the times where I would have a sleepless night over that has long past , thankfully !

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    Quote Originally Posted by lilian View Post
    No worries , if I wouldnt be able to stand up for myself I would be in deep sh**

    I am just stunned and shocked by the display of double morals and the inability of selfreflection shown here !

    The insults I do mind , veiled or not , cause nobody here knows me so well to have the right to make judgements about my characters , but the times where I would have a sleepless night over that has long past , thankfully !
    Good for you, I'm glad to hear it

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