Prostitution Consultaion Discussions on E-I

[Morpheus]

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The reality for majority involved in providing service or availing of services offered is now so anti choice it is unbelievable. To me the loss of the right to choose now is retrograde step in our development of a mature society.
I am of the opinion that the mind set that informs the prevailing situation is informed by fear and ignorance.

Exactly Simon! Fear and ignorance is right! It's the exact reason that the TORL campaign have got so many organisations and unions to give them their suppport and stamp of approval!

Almost everytime these anti-escorting groups speak - they start by mentioning child prostitution and trafficking!!

It came as a shock to me to learn that the current legislation on prostitution has nothing to do with either of the above issues which have their own legislation in place. I'm sure that the anti-escorting lobbyists know this full well, but prey on the general publics fear and ignorance of the legislation being reviewed.

[LaBelleThatcher]

You know Morpheus, I really do not think that most of the people (apart from religious based and affiliated organisations) who have joined really understand what they are joining.

For one thing, Ruhama STILL insist on claiming to speak with some kind of mandate from sex workers (albeit their own version of sex workers as intellectually challenged perpetual 5 year olds) which is an outright falsehood.

We know that, but most people don't. Remember, for most people, sex work is something they make up to sell tabloids, and when Ruhama hustle them that is their first real contact with the fact that it is real, and involves real people. Ruhama don't approach them honestly, and ask them to help hammer sex workers into submission to their agenda so that their funding streams are not cut ff (as they should have been for years in this climate EVEN if they could behave themselves, and they cannot). Oh no, Ruhama have never been that honest. They approach them and ask if they would like to "help" sex workers.

THEN the twisted logic kicks in at slick high speed that constantly glosses over the financial reality that if a woman sells sex because she has to due to financial imperatives she will be up sh*t creek without a paddle when they destroy the demand and, on account of the economic downturn, if a woman sells sex because she wants to she may not be in a much better position.

They also gloss over the reality that the women want nothing to do with them and their twisted logic, and such little they have to offer that passes for real help is only offered, however, technically "non-judgementally" in terms of a bizarre alternative reality, of their own making, that contradicts the real life experience of sex workers and is impossible to comply with without sustaining serious mental and emotional damage.

So people, and organisations sign up to "Turn Off the Red Light" under the genuine impression that Ruhama are asking them to do so on behalf of the ladies here.

All else aside, that is outright fraud that needs proving, stopping and preventing in future.