the bible pro slavery and prositution

[Lincoln]

bible says its ok to sell your daughter as a sex slave ????

"When a man sells his daughter as a slave, she will not be freed at the end of six years as the men are. If she does not please the man who bought her, he may allow her to be bought back again. But he is not allowed to sell her to foreigners, since he is the one who broke the contract with her. And if the slave girl's owner arranges for her to marry his son, he may no longer treat her as a slave girl, but he must treat her as his daughter. If he himself marries her and then takes another wife, he may not reduce her food or clothing or fail to sleep with her as his wife. If he fails in any of these three ways, she may leave as a free woman without making any payment." (Exodus 21:7-11 NLT)

Scripture endorses a hell of a lot more than that Kelly and religious apologists always seem to overlook the fact that the Old Testament Law has Jesus's tacit approval (Matthew 5 17:19)...

Its all very troubling if you actually take some time to study scripture (if there are any apologists reading this feel free to have a go at rebutting me)

[LaBelleThatcher]

bible says its ok to sell your daughter as a sex slave ????

"When a man sells his daughter as a slave, she will not be freed at the end of six years as the men are. If she does not please the man who bought her, he may allow her to be bought back again. But he is not allowed to sell her to foreigners, since he is the one who broke the contract with her. And if the slave girl's owner arranges for her to marry his son, he may no longer treat her as a slave girl, but he must treat her as his daughter. If he himself marries her and then takes another wife, he may not reduce her food or clothing or fail to sleep with her as his wife. If he fails in any of these three ways, she may leave as a free woman without making any payment." (Exodus 21:7-11 NLT)

I don't know, maybe it is the way it is worded, but I get a nasty feeling that represents a liberal reform of a pre-existing law we are better off not even thinking about.

The world has been a very cruel place in it's time, particularly to women.

[Violette]

Ah, women and the bible. If we aren't temptresses, or whores we are chattel and slaves. Delightful. Women have always caught hell in one form or another especially in the bible. This was a sore point with me, I HATED when some maggoty boy would quote scripture to me about a woman's place. Lord knows how many times I broke the 6th commandant in my mind.

[LaBelleThatcher]

Ah, women and the bible. If we aren't temptresses, or whores we are chattel and slaves. Delightful. Women have always caught hell in one form or another especially in the bible. This was a sore point with me, I HATED when some maggoty boy would quote scripture to me about a woman's place. Lord knows how many times I broke the 6th commandant in my mind.

You know the Prophet Mohammed was a radical feminist for his time?

Giving each wife a right to a private place sacrosanct even from her husband and limited inheritance rights to girls, automatic custody of girls for good and boys under 7 in case of divorce...I don't think Europe caught up until the 18th century. (The Ottoman Empire demanded the veils to discourage bedouin women from riding into battle with their men and thereby halve the opposition).

The Prophet married, and was bankrolled, by his boss (they had cougars then too).

[Lincoln]

I don't know, maybe it is the way it is worded, but I get a nasty feeling that represents a liberal reform of a pre-existing law we are better off not even thinking about.

The world has been a very cruel place in it's time, particularly to women.

Yeah, many say the same regarding the Qur'an. Mohammed's admonishment to beat the disobedient wife (the Prophet specified no broken bones or face hitting) is thought to have been a vast improvement on how conduct towards the wife used to be.

[Lincoln]

You know the Prophet Mohammed was a radical feminist for his time?

Giving each wife a right to a private place sacrosanct even from her husband and limited inheritance rights to girls, automatic custody of girls for good and boys under 7 in case of divorce...I don't think Europe caught up until the 18th century. (The Ottoman Empire demanded the veils to discourage bedouin women from riding into battle with their men and thereby halve the opposition).

The Prophet married, and was bankrolled, by his boss (they had cougars then too).

This presumably wasnt Aisha?? Married at 6 and the marraige consumated when she was 9? I know I know its such an obvious criticism of Mohammed its a cliche but even so it bears mentioning.

[LaBelleThatcher]

No, his first wife, the heiress Kadijah...15 years older than him, twice widowed, and probably slightly richer than Allah...

Child wives were, sadly, common in those harsh times...but a cougar wife, who made all the running, was pretty rare.

[lastboyscout]

The following is also tangentially relevant. I'm just posting this because it's one of my favourite Onion articles /evar/.

God Angrily Clarifies 'Don't Kill' Rule

NEW YORK—Responding to recent events on Earth, God, the omniscient creator-deity worshipped by billions of followers of various faiths for more than 6,000 years, angrily clarified His longtime stance against humans killing each other Monday.

"Look, I don't know, maybe I haven't made myself completely clear, so for the record, here it is again," said the Lord, His divine face betraying visible emotion during a press conference near the site of the fallen Twin Towers. "Somehow, people keep coming up with the idea that I want them to kill their neighbor. Well, I don't. And to be honest, I'm really getting sick and tired of it. Get it straight. Not only do I not want anybody to kill anyone, but I specifically commanded you not to, in really simple terms that anybody ought to be able to understand."

Worshipped by Christians, Jews, and Muslims alike, God said His name has been invoked countless times over the centuries as a reason to kill in what He called "an unending cycle of violence."

"I don't care how holy somebody claims to be," God said. "If a person tells you it's My will that they kill someone, they're wrong. Got it? I don't care what religion you are, or who you think your enemy is, here it is one more time: No killing, in My name or anyone else's, ever again."

The press conference came as a surprise to humankind, as God rarely intervenes in earthly affairs. As a matter of longstanding policy, He has traditionally left the task of interpreting His message and divine will to clerics, rabbis, priests, imams, and Biblical scholars. Theologians and laymen alike have been given the task of pondering His ineffable mysteries, deciding for themselves what to do as a matter of faith. His decision to manifest on the material plane was motivated by the deep sense of shock, outrage, and sorrow He felt over the Sept. 11 violence carried out in His name, and over its dire potential ramifications around the globe.

"I tried to put it in the simplest possible terms for you people, so you'd get it straight, because I thought it was pretty important," said God, called Yahweh and Allah respectively in the Judaic and Muslim traditions. "I guess I figured I'd left no real room for confusion after putting it in a four-word sentence with one-syllable words, on the tablets I gave to Moses. How much more clear can I get?"

"But somehow, it all gets twisted around and, next thing you know, somebody's spouting off some nonsense about, 'God says I have to kill this guy, God wants me to kill that guy, it's God's will,'" God continued. "It's not God's will, all right? News flash: 'God's will' equals 'Don't murder people.'"

Worse yet, many of the worst violators claim that their actions are justified by passages in the Bible, Torah, and Qur'an.

"To be honest, there's some contradictory stuff in there, okay?" God said. "So I can see how it could be pretty misleading. I admit it—My bad. I did My best to inspire them, but a lot of imperfect human agents have misinterpreted My message over the millennia. Frankly, much of the material that got in there is dogmatic, doctrinal bullshit. I turn My head for a second and, suddenly, all this stuff about homosexuality gets into Leviticus, and everybody thinks it's God's will to kill gays. It absolutely drives Me up the wall."

God praised the overwhelming majority of His Muslim followers as "wonderful, pious people," calling the perpetrators of the Sept. 11 attacks rare exceptions.

"This whole medieval concept of the jihad, or holy war, had all but vanished from the Muslim world in, like, the 10th century, and with good reason," God said. "There's no such thing as a holy war, only unholy ones. The vast majority of Muslims in this world reject the murderous actions of these radical extremists, just like the vast majority of Christians in America are pissed off over those two bigots on The 700 Club."

Continued God, "Read the book: 'Allah is kind, Allah is beautiful, Allah is merciful.' It goes on and on that way, page after page. But, no, some assholes have to come along and revive this stupid holy-war crap just to further their own hateful agenda. So now, everybody thinks Muslims are all murderous barbarians. Thanks, Taliban: 1,000 years of pan-Islamic cultural progress down the drain."

God stressed that His remarks were not directed exclusively at Islamic extremists, but rather at anyone whose ideological zealotry overrides his or her ability to comprehend the core message of all world religions.

"I don't care what faith you are, everybody's been making this same mistake since the dawn of time," God said. "The Muslims massacre the Hindus, the Hindus massacre the Muslims. The Buddhists, everybody massacres the Buddhists. The Jews, don't even get me started on the hardline, right-wing, Meir Kahane-loving Israeli nationalists, man. And the Christians? You people believe in a Messiah who says, 'Turn the other cheek,' but you've been killing everybody you can get your hands on since the Crusades."

Growing increasingly wrathful, God continued: "Can't you people see? What are you, morons? There are a ton of different religious traditions out there, and different cultures worship Me in different ways. But the basic message is always the same: Christianity, Islam, Judaism, Buddhism, Shintoism... every religious belief system under the sun, they all say you're supposed to love your neighbors, folks! It's not that hard a concept to grasp."

"Why would you think I'd want anything else? Humans don't need religion or God as an excuse to kill each other—you've been doing that without any help from Me since you were freaking apes!" God said. "The whole point of believing in God is to have a higher standard of behavior. How obvious can you get?"

"I'm talking to all of you, here!" continued God, His voice rising to a shout. "Do you hear Me? I don't want you to kill anybody. I'm against it, across the board. How many times do I have to say it? Don't kill each other anymore—ever! I'm fucking serious!"

Upon completing His outburst, God fell silent, standing quietly at the podium for several moments. Then, witnesses reported, God's shoulders began to shake, and He wept.

source.

[damron]

Don't tell me you believe in that FAIRYTALE

[major walker]

which 1 is the 6th commandant . a lazy lapsed catholic

Ah, women and the bible. If we aren't temptresses, or whores we are chattel and slaves. Delightful. Women have always caught hell in one form or another especially in the bible. This was a sore point with me, I HATED when some maggoty boy would quote scripture to me about a woman's place. Lord knows how many times I broke the 6th commandant in my mind.