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    After reading this thread i am outraged and upset.Disabled People have feeling's, Wants and Needs like any other person and it is a fucking sin the way certain escorts have posted in this thread which was in the disabled section.

    https://www.escort-ireland.com/boards...nating-escorts


    What is discrimination because of disability

    It is against the law to discriminate against disabled people in various areas of their lives.

    If disability discrimination takes place in any of the following situations, you may be able to take action about it:
    •at work
    •when providing goods, facilities and services
    •when renting or buying property
    •in education.

    There are some important areas where it is not against the law to discriminate against disabled people, for example, in access to public transport services.

    Disability discrimination can either be direct or indirect.

    Direct discrimination is where you are treated less favourably because of your disability than someone without a disability would be treated in the same circumstances.

    Here is an example of direct discrimination because of disability:

    A pub allows a family with a child who has cerebral palsy to drink in their beer garden but not in their family room. The family with the disabled child are not given the same choices that other families have.

    Indirect discrimination is where there is a rule, policy or practice which seems to apply equally to everyone, but which actually puts disabled people at an unfair disadvantage compared with people who aren't disabled.

    Here is an example of indirect discrimination:

    A local authority produces an information leaflet about its services for local people. It does not produce an easy-to-read version of the leaflet in order to save money. This would make it more difficult for someone with a learning disability to access the services and could amount to indirect discrimination.

    Sometimes, it is possible to justify the rule, policy or practice that puts disabled people at a disadvantage. For example, there could be a health and safety reason, or an unavoidable business reason. Where this is the case, it won't count as discrimination.

    There is another kind of discrimination which is called discrimination arising from disability. This means that someone is treated unfavourably because of something connected to their disability and there is no good reason for doing this. For example, they may need to use a guide dog but no adjustments are made to allow for this.

    It is also disability discrimination if someone does not make adjustments to allow disabled people to access a service or carry out a job. For example, providing an information leaflet in Braille. This is called the duty to make reasonable adjustments.

    It is also disability discrimination:
    •to harass you if you are disabled, for example, by making jokes about your disability
    •to victimise you if you take legal action because of discrimination against you, or if you help someone else to take legal action because of discrimination
    •not to take steps to make sure that disabled people can have access to things like goods, facilities and services, a workplace, an educational establishment, an association, or a public building. This is called making reasonable adjustments
    •if someone discriminates against you because of someone you have a connection to who is disabled, such as your partner or child. This is known as discrimination by association.

    Here is an example of discrimination by association:

    An employer disciplines a woman because she has had to take time off to care for her disabled child. He has not disciplined other workers who have had similar amounts of time off work. This would be counted as direct disability discrimination.



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    This thread was deleted this morning, quite rightly so, by the mods. I have decided to undelete this thread, as bonkers as some of you might think that is, because I think we should talk about this. I have moved this to the disabled clients section. I am assuming that this is posted by banned user MrNiceGuy2010 who was banned for trolling.

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    So, do posters think that E-I is not disabled friendly, and if so, what can we do to help accommodate disabled clients?

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    Quote Originally Posted by samlad View Post
    This thread was deleted this morning, quite rightly so, by the mods. I have decided to undelete this thread, as bonkers as some of you might think that is, because I think we should talk about this. I have moved this to the disabled clients section. I am assuming that this is posted by banned user MrNiceGuy2010 who was banned for trolling.
    Not looking for debate or row, but why are you presuming??? What I mean, is there an IP connection or just a presumption?

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    Quote Originally Posted by doodlebug View Post
    Not looking for debate or row, but why are you presuming??? What I mean, is there an IP connection or just a presumption?

    More than a presumption
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    Not sure how accurate the "EI is not disabled Friendly" title is. EI doesn't have any control over who an escort decides he/she is willing to see. From the thread title I was expecting a complaint about the layout of the board to be honest.

    EI can control/ban members for insulting other members who have disabilities but that's about all. Maybe I should read the other thread before I say anything else.

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    Quote Originally Posted by doodlebug View Post
    Not looking for debate or row, but why are you presuming??? What I mean, is there an IP connection or just a presumption?
    I'm making this assumption based on the fact that he is constantly creating accounts for this very purpose. His IP is masked through a proxifier (would you believe it? ) hence the reason I am making this assumption.

    We have many IP matches with his other accounts, by the way.
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    I think it is difficult to say that E-I is not disabled friendly when they are not themselves providing the service. Perhaps they could do to encourace advertisers to be more disabled friendly or they could provide two boxes instead of one, ie:

    Will you see clients with minor disabilities (tic)
    Will you see clients with severe disabilities (x)

    Which would be how I would answer it. I don't feel qualified to see people with sever disabilties and won't put someone elses life at risk due to my lack of knowledge and skills in this area, however, I am happy to see people that are able within day to day life and are simply telling me to be polite more than expecting me to manage their disability in some way.

    Perhaps be more flexible?

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    Whatever else, E-I definately isn't responsible for the attitude of individual escorts to disabilities, within the meaning of the equality act (and even if they were, they would first have to be legal in Ireland to be brought to tribunal!)...but beyond that, this is almost an impossible one to resolve...

    Yes, of COURSE I see how deeply hurtful, even enraging it must be to be turned down by an escort on the grounds of disability, but, on the other hand, it is a little sinister that anyone would want to try to use equality legislation as a battering ram to break down personal discomfort in a sexual context.

    Don't think two categories is the answer...it's too subjective...define "severe" and "minor" for starters.

    But Samlad it right to bring it back, it needs discussed.

    Let me leave you with something to ponder for now...how would you classify, and deal with, a client who was intellectually disabled?

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    Quote Originally Posted by LaBelleThatcher View Post
    Whatever else, E-I definately isn't responsible for the attitude of individual escorts to disabilities, within the meaning of the equality act (and even if they were, they would first have to be legal in Ireland to be brought to tribunal!)...but beyond that, this is almost an impossible one to resolve...

    Yes, of COURSE I see how deeply hurtful, even enraging it must be to be turned down by an escort on the grounds of disability, but, on the other hand, it is a little sinister that anyone would want to try to use equality legislation as a battering ram to break down personal discomfort in a sexual context.

    Don't think two categories is the answer...it's too subjective...define "severe" and "minor" for starters.

    But Samlad it right to bring it back, it needs discussed.

    Let me leave you with something to ponder for now...how would you classify, and deal with, a client who was intellectually disabled?

    This is not particularly cutndry either Eileen, as you have people who are classed as borderline 'special needs' as they're just not that bright, but they're perfectly nice people and wouldn't harm a fly. Ok, you might not have the best conversation with them, but they are not threat or worry to you.

    Then you have areas of the brain that are dangerous when dysfunctional. The frontal lobe controls the ability to understand between right and wrong and if you are faced with someone who has problems in this area, then in my mind you are putting yourself in danger.

    This again is another reason why I think communication is very important. You can tell a lot from a conversation, about attitude, understanding and wave length and all these things can make a differenced to how a booking goes and even your safety.

    The other thing to consider is that you are less likely to have someone who is intellectually disabled actually acknowledge it and they likely won't see themselves that way or introduce themselves in that way. You can only go by your gut reaction and if alarm bells chime, then you have to go by your instinct. It's not prejudice, it's self preservation.
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