Barcode pimps

[sharkskin]

I hope that they throw away the key when they lock up the scum who did this.


http://m.theglobeandmail.com/news/wo...service=mobile

[dr love]

Would agree with you there bro .: doc

[UKHeather]

When forced prostitution is rife in Europe I have to wonder why some people are adamant that it doesn't happen in Ireland.

[Disco Biscuit]

When forced prostitution is rife in Europe I have to wonder why some people are adamant that it doesn't happen in Ireland.

those people have their heads buried in teh sand heather

pretty sure there are, or at least there were escorts advertising on this site with barcode tattoos

[LaBelleThatcher]

When forced prostitution is rife in Europe I have to wonder why some people are adamant that it doesn't happen in Ireland.

I am coming to the conclusion that the claims of widespread coerced trafficking in Ireland could well be no more than a cynical, agenda driven, political, hype myself Heather, let me tell you why?

Disregarding the fact that wherever there is a terrible thing one human being can do to others, there is always somebody, somewhere getting away with it...usually in the last place you would expect, and Ireland is no exception, Ireland is a very small country. The population of the Birmingham Metropolitan Area is 3/4 or the population in the south, and more than half the population of the whole Island.

When they say everybody knows everybody, if they aren't actually related, they aren't kidding. Nothing happens here unnoticed.

The flip side of that is that nobody can ever feel too confident in getting away with anything. As a result we export our sick freak behaviours the same way we export anything controversial, even abortion.

We have only ever had a single suspected serial killer, only 4 sex workers have been murdered here since the 20s (if not before). That's not because we are better than most people, but rather because anything bad we do here amounts to sh*tting on one's own doorstep.

That is not a viable market for coerced women or girls...and the logistics of trafficking them here, into a small, parochial, dead end, are just not worth it. I do not believe widespread trafficking could be happening here without the dogs in the street knowing about it by now...yet no-one sees any trafficking...nobody can "unofficially" tell me where I can find trafficking victims.

The documentaries that claim to show trafficking show nothing conclusive whatsoever except that there are foreign women involved in sex work here.

Awful things happen here...once I had a friend who got out of a relationship from a nightmare - only to find herself living next door to and Irish woman who was kept like a prisoner in her own home (nothing to do with sex work but everything to do with coercion)...in a tiny picturesque rural town...nobody knew, but everybody knew...

As long as everybody's attention is misdirected into witchhunting innocent people (including us) and outright fictions of massed trafficking nobody has actually seen a trace of, the victims of smaller scale, less sensationalist real abuses go on without hope.

[Banjaxed]

Once again, you make sense Eileen.

Only recently did I learn of a family in which during the previous generation in which a number of the daughters were sexually abused and raped (that's the clean version, but it was more depraved) and it only came to light after the mother divorced the man, but the daughters who are now in their 40s won't do anything about it now, they don't want to go to Court and see him deny it and feel like fools. No one wanted to believed them at the time, and the piece of shit whose now nearly in his 70s is free and going about his business, out for his few pints every night, handshakes and all, from people who know the story. I went to school with their kids and never knew anything about it.

We would be very naive, even more naive than I normally am, to believe that this is no longer happening. The cases that become public are only the tip of the iceberg. Back when those women were young, no one believed it, even in their teens when they went to report it to the Gardai, the Sgt now long since dead told them "ah sure did ya not enjoy it!" and walked off from the public office (it frightened me that I now know it shares so much with the Bartley case in 1997, unreported, in the High Court. The accused in this case was convicted of incest. However Justice Carney took the opportunity provided by the case to note that if a member of the Gardaí receives a credible complaint of [any] felony [now an "arrestable offence", one punishable with mat least five years in prison] they are obliged to investigate it.)

Ok, I'll try and switch off again now.

[very shy guy]

Once again, you make sense Eileen.

Only recently did I learn of a family in which during the previous generation in which a number of the daughters were sexually abused and raped (that's the clean version, but it was more depraved) and it only came to light after the mother divorced the man, but the daughters who are now in their 40s won't do anything about it now, they don't want to go to Court and see him deny it and feel like fools. No one wanted to believed them at the time, and the piece of shit whose now nearly in his 70s is free and going about his business, out for his few pints every night, handshakes and all, from people who know the story. I went to school with their kids and never knew anything about it.

We would be very naive, even more naive than I normally am, to believe that this is no longer happening. The cases that become public are only the tip of the iceberg. Back when those women were young, no one believed it, even in their teens when they went to report it to the Gardai, the Sgt now long since dead told them "ah sure did ya not enjoy it!" and walked off from the public office (it frightened me that I now know it shares so much with the Bartley case in 1997, unreported, in the High Court. The accused in this case was convicted of incest. However Justice Carney took the opportunity provided by the case to note that if a member of the Gardaí receives a credible complaint of [any] felony [now an "arrestable offence", one punishable with mat least five years in prison] they are obliged to investigate it.)

Ok, I'll try and switch off again now.

That bas*ard of a garda sargent should have been strung up by his balls Banjaxed,its no wonder crimes of this nature are not reported with his attitude.

[UKHeather]

Eileen, I have just written a long and detailed reply to your post, which then disappeared at the touch of a key! Argh!
I will write it again tomorrow and send it to you privately

[LaBelleThatcher]

Eileen, I have just written a long and detailed reply to your post, which then disappeared at the touch of a key! Argh!
I will write it again tomorrow and send it to you privately

Always happens...I swear this interface lies around in wait for the longest post of the day, checks you haven't copied it to "notepad" then STRIKES!!!

[Banjaxed]

Funnily enough, on reading the history of organised prostitution this seems to be a common thing in some countries. It sounds horrible, but it also sounds stupid like the whole "gang tattoo" stuff that goes on. It's easy evidence for joining the dots and pinning it to specific gangs and individuals.

Hopefully the Spaniards take it more seriously than here. Mostly here it's a suspended sentence and a mediocre fine, it's practically an incentive to pimps and traffickers. Might as well throw out the laws altogether and let the professional classes get in on it.