Secret diary of a Dublin call girl

[doodlebug]

One would be forgiven for thinking that you are equating the acceptance of money in return for sex with abuse.

I am speaking of abuse in the context of Dublin Call Girls blog, that is where the equation has come from.

[Lucy Chambers]

For gods sake.

Words effing fail me, and that is a bloody first.

[doodlebug]

For gods sake.

Words effing fail me, and that is a bloody first.

What is troubling you my friend.

[Franken996]

I saw that Blog before reading this thread & posted a separate thread about the How it Feels to Get Reviewed article here in States, granted our american cousins don't know context re Ruhama/TORL etc nor are they prob aware of DCG's tough life tribulations ( prob akin to many guys 'skimming' this thread), so please take the following in that context.

Personally I thought that piece was well written & thought provoking.

I attach no value statement to the following US contributions which I did not author- merely passing on for informative purposes….


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Punter:
Some ladies hate reviews and some (in fact most) have actually asked me to write one. In fact after not posting a review of a lady I recently saw it was brought to my attention that she was disappointed there was no review. The review can be a very powerful marketing tool and presumably brings in new clients.

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Escort:
I've said this once and I'll say it again: A LOT of ladies do not like reviews. It is a necessary evil in this business. When a lady has a no review policy there is all sorts of speculation about her probably being bad in bed or hiding something. No - maybe for a few but there are ladies that do not want BCD details to be made public whether good or bad.

A lady on another board I frequent posted that she preferred non-hobbyists to hobbyists because non-hobbyists keep their mouth shut, don't gossip behind provider backs and aren't self entitled pricks. She is 100% correct.

Jenny demilo has also said the same here: http://jennydemilo.com/2010/04/client-vrs-hobbyist/
I posted this before and some of you had nothing but mean things to say about Jenny.
She speaks the truth. A lot of ladies are afraid to speak the truth because this is their primary source of income.
IMO Reviews CAN be degrading. A lot of ladies pretend to like them when they're really disgusted by them and it's truly sad.

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Punter:
I'm sure this is one of those topics where providers have all different kinds of attitudes. Some may be 'disgusted' by them and find them 'degrading.' I would theorize that those same ladies are probably conflicted about being a provider in the first place. I've had a couple providers tell me they really enjoyed reading about themselves when a session they really enjoyed themselves is described. My ATF has a good attitude I think - she just basically says 'I know you guys enjoy your locker room talk' and just accepts it. She's not that interested in reading the reviews herself, but doesn't let their existence bother her in the least unless someone outright lies or mispresents something.

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Escort:

I have reviews so people know that I am legit.
I am not against reviews. I sure as hell LOVE my reviews and
don't feel that they are degrading - to me , they read like love stories.
HOwever, I have read other reviews that made me cringe. I guess it goes to show the
type of guy that girl attracts but I sure as hell would not be a happy camper if a guy called me a
"cum dumpster" in my review and referred to me as "Just something to dump in". I feel that is degrading.
I see nothing wrong in a girl having reviews and then requesting for no more reviews. Everyone has to start somewhere.
I mean does a girl REALLY need 300 reviews saying so and so gagged and greeked her and she gave him an upside down bj to
prove her legitimacy? NO.

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Punter:
This woman is very annoying and it is damn presumptuous of her to tell the rest of the world what "sex" is and how it should be enjoyed. While she and many other providers "fake" it, the ones I see do a damn good job of "fooling" me, especially in the actual sex part. I've had enough civilian sex to know what the "real thing" is like and the product most well-reviewed ladies deliver is only indistinguishable from the "real thing" in that it is better and more varied. So her romanticizing about sex falls on ZZZ's deaf ears.

What is so mysterious or sacred about the act of coupling, with or without compensation, that makes it impossible to consider, assess and even grade a sexual session? As civilians we all do the same thing: we assess and rate our sexual sessions and partners. What we don't do is take the time to compose a report about, but we certainly could.

XXX posted a link to an article that showed that mongers have been reviewing escorts for centuries. The issue of the reviews and the invasion of privacy of escorts is probably as old as the first published review. I have a simple approach. If a lady doesn't want a review, I won't write one, but then again I rarely see any ladies who don't have reviews. If a lady doesn't want a graphic review, then I'll write a tepid, factual one that will please her sensibilities yet be informative to the mongering community. My experience is that most ladies like my reviews and appreciate that they usually increase business.

These cranky, bitter ex-h**kers irritate me to no end and I find their writings to be self-indulgent, narcissistic and filled with such gross generalizations that they are useless drivel.

Now that I got that off my chest I feel so much better. Let's go have some hot, paid sex!!

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Punter:

Sigh.

The woman who wrote that blog needs to grow the fuck up. The "creepy pervs" who write reviews are customers who are paying for a service. Customers who pay for a service are going to rate that service and decide if that service is worth paying for again or not. They will also tell friends if they feel the service being provided is worth paying for. That is fucking reality. It doesn't matter what industry you are talking about.

If a person goes to a movie, they will rate and recommend it afterwards to friends, or warn them not to waste their money. The same goes for going to a restaurant, buying a TV, going to see a concert, buying insurance, going to a store, you name it. If you are selling a service or product in any way shape or form, don't expect people not to rate or judge that service. To do so is immature and unrealistic.

Now this woman admitted that she is providing a service where she is "acting". So if you are asking "creepy pervs" to pay for your performance as an actress, you should be good at it, and you should be mature enough to deal with critique of your acting performance. Because guess what? A paying customer will always prefer to find a better actress at a comparable rate. If you really don't like they way "creepy pervs" are, and what they do and say, then find another profession. Don't spread your legs and take the money of creepy pervs and all that come with seeing them to pay your bills then complain about it. GET A JOB LADY!

Ahh but there is the rub isn't it? No matter what you do for a living, YOUR PERFORMANCE WILL BE JUDGED. What company doesn't have performance reviews? What store, restaurant, shop or any other kind of business does not have public ratings? The internet has come and it's not going away any time soon. Hell, anything you buy on Amazon, has customer reviews under the main product description does it not? What little girl fantasy world is this woman living in where she expects people to just give her money, be happy for whatever performance she gives them and then just shut up about it? Its not gonna happen. Forget it lady. Grow up.

This topic of reviews is particularly odd for me of course because I actually get ASKED to write reviews. There have been times I have gotten back to my desk after a lunch time session to be greeted by a text asking when my review will be up. Like what time by the clock! Now I understand I have a rep for reviews and some ladies know that good reviews are good for business. This is so much of an issue, that some people here are constantly accusing me of being a shill.

So I ask this, if being reviewed is so fucking horrible, how could there possibly be shills? You mean there are agencies and providers that would actually give out discounts and freebies for these awful degrading reviews from us creepy pervs when they really want us to stop writing them????? Does not compute.

Oh and then there is the gem of saying that us creepy pervs are men who "exploit vulnerable women". Lady, what the fuck do you think you are doing? When you are taking cash from a lonely single man, or an unsatisfied married man, who do you think is exploiting the vulnerable? You think because you are willing to take monetary advantage of men who find them selves so in need of this outlet that they are willing to pay for it makes you somehow morally superior to them? Are you kidding me?

The fact is your blog changes absolutely nothing at all. I hope it made you feel better lady but the reality of the world where service is exchanged for money has not changed since the beginning of time. You don't like it, good luck with lotto. Because other than that, any service you provide for money in any field you can name will be judged and reviewed. You can't stop it, you can't control it. You can only find a way to deal with it and still hold your head high. In whatever you do, do your best, be a professional and provide the type of service you would like to receive. Once you have done that, you should feel good no matter what a creepy perv or any other type of customer writes on the internet. When you like what you do, and do the best you can at it, you can always hold your head high and feel great about yourself despite haters. If not, you are in the wrong profession.

There is is.

[Vasco da Gama]

Thank you everyone for your comments. In particular I would like to thank all the ladies who've commented. Afterall, you are the only ones who actually know what it's like to be an escort. It is really ineresting and informative for me to read the varying opinions from the ladies. WHich gives balance to the whole topic.

I didn't start this thread to vilify the author of the blog. I felt it was an important blog for all of us involved in this industry to be aware of. I did have strong suspcions that the blog was fake and was the work of anti-escorting campaingners (for which I gave my reasons at the beginning). However, it is very clear from the testimony of Patricia, Lucy and others that the blogger is very real and known to some on the forum. It obviously completely changes my perception of what is said on the blog. It has upset me deeply.

I agree with Patricia, that it is probably a joint effort - in that Ruhamma/TORL have promoted the blog. But it doesn't change the fact the lady is expressing her own perception of her experience and aftemath of being an escort.

[Lucy Chambers]

What is troubling you my friend.

What isnt?

If I was to explain my thoughts at this point, I would be banned instantly.

Can I say again? I know Dublin Call Girl. She is a decent educated woman who is trying to work her way through some very hard issues. I fail to see the need to discuss anything else.

[Lucy Chambers]

Thank you everyone for your comments. In particular I would like to thank all the ladies who've commented. Afterall, you are the only ones who actually know what it's like to be an escort. It is really ineresting and informative for me to read the varying opinions from the ladies. WHich gives balance to the whole topic.

I didn't start this thread to vilify the author of the blog. I felt it was an important blog for all of us involved in this industry to be aware of. I did have strong suspcions that the blog was fake and was the work of anti-escorting campaingners (for which I gave my reasons at the beginning). However, it is very clear from the testimony of Patricia, Lucy and others that the blogger is very real and known to some on the forum. It obviously completely changes my perception of what is said on the blog. It has upset me deeply.

I agree with Patricia, that it is probably a joint effort - in that Ruhamma/TORL have promoted the blog. But it doesn't change the fact the lady is expressing her own perception of her experience and aftemath of being an escort.

It is not a joint effort. The lady received counselling from Ruhama and left feeling less than helped. I shall talk to her further and see if she feels able to comment on this. I was off in my first assessment.

[doodlebug]

What isnt?

If I was to explain my thoughts at this point, I would be banned instantly.

Can I say again? I know Dublin Call Girl. She is a decent educated woman who is trying to work her way through some very hard issues. I fail to see the need to discuss anything else.

I know that you know Dublin Call Girl, and I accept that she is trying to work her way through some very hard issues, but the fact remains she is publishing a blog that is directly relevant to the existence of this site and this industry, does that not in itself merit discussion.

Forgive my presumption but I suspect you are feeling posters are attacking DCG, that is not the case and by and large the posters have reiterated their respect for her and her bravery.

Furthermore, her blog prohibits discussion, so surely we can discuss what she posts here.

If I am wrong then I apologise.

[DONEGALANGEL]

What isnt?

If I was to explain my thoughts at this point, I would be banned instantly.

Can I say again? I know Dublin Call Girl. She is a decent educated woman who is trying to work her way through some very hard issues. I fail to see the need to discuss anything else.

and she shall work through it Luce she took the first step which tells herself she is ready to work them out.. after all this is what is wrong with a lot they wont ask for help when they need it..sometimes problems can not be solved without help.. unfortunately it takes a lot to talk and trust.. glad she has taken that step..x

[Lucy Chambers]

I know that you know Dublin Call Girl, and I accept that she is trying to work her way through some very hard issues, but the fact remains she is publishing a blog that is directly relevant to the existence of this site and this industry, does that not in itself merit discussion.

Forgive my presumption but I suspect you are feeling posters are attacking DCG, that is not the case and by and large the posters have reiterated their respect for her and her bravery.

Furthermore, her blog prohibits discussion, so surely we can discuss what she posts here.

If I am wrong then I apologise.

You are wrong. My thoughts have no bearing on this thread, I will PM.