Government considers dole time limit

[morningglory]

Doing what ?

Depends on the persons skills, but tbh, this appears to be aimed at long term unemployed who in most cases wouldn't have qualifications/trade. But theres always something to be done....clean graffitti, clean parks,rivers etc, help elderly/disabled people in their community, anything really.......I remember years ago, I had to work for my dole during the summer in college, felt good giving something back, and definately better than sitting on my arse all day.

[Doozer]

Depends on the persons skills, but tbh, this appears to be aimed at long term unemployed who in most cases wouldn't have qualifications/trade. But theres always something to be done....clean graffitti, clean parks,rivers etc, help elderly/disabled people in their community, anything really.......I remember years ago, I had to work for my dole during the summer in college, felt good giving something back, and definately better than sitting on my arse all day.

So take.jobs away from park rangers health care assitants and other people livelihoods . I know what you are saying but any activity would take away from genuine workers . Its like some companies using the internship program as a a means.of free labour

[morningglory]

So take.jobs away from park rangers health care assitants and other people livelihoods . I know what you are saying but any activity would take away from genuine workers . Its like some companies using the internship program as a a means.of free labour

Anybody who walks around this city and its suburbs can see that that work isnt being done though. All local authority budgets have been cut, so stuff like that isn't being done. Theres things to be done, just not the money there to pay for it, yet we,as nation, pay for people to do nothing. Doesnt make sense to me.

[Doozer]

Anybody who walks around this city and its suburbs can see that that work isnt being done though. All local authority budgets have been cut, so stuff like that isn't being done. Theres things to be done, just not the money there to pay for it, yet we,as nation, pay for people to do nothing. Doesnt make sense to me.

who is going to insure these people if something happens while.they are working?
But if they are doing all these jobs , how will they search for proper jobs?

[warmcome]

who is going to insure these people if something happens while.they are working?
But if they are doing all these jobs , how will they search for proper jobs?

we're going to have to think outside the cosy box of apathy. one state insurance
will cover them all. in the evening they can browse the web for jobs.

[morningglory]

who is going to insure these people if something happens while.they are working?
But if they are doing all these jobs , how will they search for proper jobs?

Insurance wouldnt cost that much, and how do you think people with jobs do other things? Do you think we just work/sleep/work?

[doodlebug]

And so it goes, any mention of dole brings out the hang em, flog em brigade. Lets look at it objectively, I am on the dole for more than two years now, I have applied for at least one hundred jobs and had four interviews, two of those for government agencies who didn't even have the courtesy to inform me of the results.

Dole offices in Eastern Europe, not quite accurate, but why shouldn't people from the EU who worked here and paid taxes for the past number of years be entitled to benefits!!!!

The dole is not a lifestyle choice, as we are being told, just as emigration isn't either. I leave my dignity at the door every week when I go to sign my name and get my dole. I want to work as others do, I want my dignity and I want to be productive. I have begun a few things recently to see them fall flat on their faces.

I agree the dole system need an overhaul but what needs a greater overhaul is the incentives needed to create jobs and to make me and others like me a tax paying productive member of this society.

Giving me an exit date is a great idea, just tell the people advertising the jobs that I have that deadline before you start to punish me by cutting the meagre amount I get every week. I am not living in a cardboard box (yet) but your taxes are not going to pay my dole, they are going to pay a promissory note to Anglo Irish Bank which is nothing only made up money. Folks direct your anger where it should go towards the policies that see this economy bleeding 20 per cent of all tax to pay of the ECB/IMF and not against those who are trying to work, want to work and are quite literally fed up of getting kicked when they are down.

Rant over.

[morningglory]

But thats what I am suggesting Doodlebug, you work for your benefits. You become productive, you get your dignity back. I can understand how you feel. I'm not suggesting a 40 hour week here or anything, but 20 hours a week getting up/out and doing something productive would surely be good for a person? Or maybe I'm wrong....

As for a lifestyle choice.....ok its not your choice, but there are plenty out there who do choose this lifestyle, who do claim benefits and give nothing back to society.

[warmcome]

there are several categories of job seekers:

those who lost their jobs//livelyhoods due to recession
those who can't find work due to discrimination
those who want to 'use the system' and are doing quite nicely

[doodlebug]

But thats what I am suggesting Doodlebug, you work for your benefits. You become productive, you get your dignity back. I can understand how you feel. I'm not suggesting a 40 hour week here or anything, but 20 hours a week getting up/out and doing something productive would surely be good for a person? Or maybe I'm wrong....

As for a lifestyle choice.....ok its not your choice, but there are plenty out there who do choose this lifestyle, who do claim benefits and give nothing back to society.

I don't know if doing a made up job would really give me back my dignity, and as for making me a reserve cop!!! that would be more of a threat to society, LOL.

I disagree that there are many out there who have made a lifestyle choice, during the Celtic Tiger we were regarded as having an unemployment rate of zero, but there is a hardcore in all societies of between 4 and 6 per cent who are unemployed, that is the same here, I don't think that the 7 to 9 per cent extra now on the dole can be regarded as lifestyle choices.