Okay....lets talk about cheap

[carlos marvado]

Frankly, I am appalled at the number of unqualified congratulatory posts and 'thank yous' directed to the OP on this thread. There have been a number of threads recently about the attitude of clients towards escorts, chiefly one where an escort vehemently defended her stance that men who visit escorts have no respect for women. It has now been taken a stage further by this OP who explains, amongst other things, that guys must understand that whilst escorts are prepared to allow themselves to be abused by their visiting clients , they should understand and accept that the escort must be adequately compensated for this abuse. Ruhama will just love this one.

This statement was made by the OP to all guys who visit escorts including readers here, the vast majority of whom, have nothing but the greatest respect for escorts. I for one, totally and utterly reject any assertion, be it direct or indirect, that as a visitor of escorts that I abuse these ladies in any shape or form.

Point taken, but there is a sizeable section of the population out there (rather than in here) which would regard paying somebody else money to be allowed to use that person's body for the purposes of ones gratification as a form of abuse of and in itself. Don't make no difference whether you are polite and courteous and smiling when you are doing whatever it is you are doing to them.......it's simply a different perspective on the issue than one normally reads here.

[Stephanie]

Frankly, I am appalled at the number of unqualified congratulatory posts and 'thank yous' directed to the OP on this thread. There have been a number of threads recently about the attitude of clients towards escorts, chiefly one where an escort vehemently defended her stance that men who visit escorts have no respect for women. It has now been taken a stage further by this OP who explains, amongst other things, that guys must understand that whilst escorts are prepared to allow themselves to be abused by their visiting clients , they should understand and accept that the escort must be adequately compensated for this abuse. Ruhama will just love this one.

This statement was made by the OP to all guys who visit escorts including readers here, the vast majority of whom, have nothing but the greatest respect for escorts. I for one, totally and utterly reject any assertion, be it direct or indirect, that as a visitor of escorts that I abuse these ladies in any shape or form.

Point taken, but there is a sizeable section of the population out there (rather than in here) which would regard paying somebody else money to be allowed to use that person's body for the purposes of ones gratification as a form of abuse of and in itself. Don't make no difference whether you are polite and courteous and smiling when you are doing whatever it is you are doing to them.......it's simply a different perspective on the issue than one normally reads here.

I don't feel abused. I rather enjoy what I do.

If someone feels used or abused, then perhaps the financial rewards are not worth continuing in this line of work,

as it will eat away at the soul if you are doing something that you are unhappy with. Can turn people bitter and resentful.

As Amy said we do put a bit of ourselves into each encounter, but -- as she said -- there's no soul-selling here.

My soul stays very safely and securely and warmly right where it is : with me.

[ksteve]

Point taken, but there is a sizeable section of the population out there (rather than in here) which would regard paying somebody else money to be allowed to use that person's body for the purposes of ones gratification as a form of abuse of and in itself. Don't make no difference whether you are polite and courteous and smiling when you are doing whatever it is you are doing to them.......it's simply a different perspective on the issue than one normally reads here.

Of course there is ( a huge section) but very few if any ( or so I thought until recently ) are members here or genuine readers of the boards.

[mellors]

Frankly, I am appalled at the number of unqualified congratulatory posts and 'thank yous' directed to the OP on this thread. There have been a number of threads recently about the attitude of clients towards escorts, chiefly one where an escort vehemently defended her stance that men who visit escorts have no respect for women. It has now been taken a stage further by this OP who explains, amongst other things, that guys must understand that whilst escorts are prepared to allow themselves to be abused by their visiting clients , they should understand and accept that the escort must be adequately compensated for this abuse. Ruhama will just love this one.

This statement was made by the OP to all guys who visit escorts including readers here, the vast majority of whom, have nothing but the greatest respect for escorts. I for one, totally and utterly reject any assertion, be it direct or indirect, that as a visitor of escorts that I abuse these ladies in any shape or form.

I understand where you're coming from Ksteve, but having chatted with various escorts over the year i've been punting I feel the vast majority of posters on this forum are unfortunately in the minority.
I feel using the word abuse is perhaps a little harsh, more lack of respect/manners and servility than anything.
I don't really like posting on these type of threads as the escorts obviously have a more insightful view on the reality. I've heard of clients who come for an appt and dont utter one word or crack a smile, others who feel that the escort is their possession for the alloted time,you know the sort of thing, this position that position, leg here arse there sort of thing.
To me there missing out on 99% of the fun.

[Lucy Chambers]

Frankly, I am appalled at the number of unqualified congratulatory posts and 'thank yous' directed to the OP on this thread. There have been a number of threads recently about the attitude of clients towards escorts, chiefly one where an escort vehemently defended her stance that men who visit escorts have no respect for women. It has now been taken a stage further by this OP who explains, amongst other things, that guys must understand that whilst escorts are prepared to allow themselves to be abused by their visiting clients , they should understand and accept that the escort must be adequately compensated for this abuse. Ruhama will just love this one.

This statement was made by the OP to all guys who visit escorts including readers here, the vast majority of whom, have nothing but the greatest respect for escorts. I for one, totally and utterly reject any assertion, be it direct or indirect, that as a visitor of escorts that I abuse these ladies in any shape or form.

My name is Lucy. If you have a problem with what I said, I can qualify it if you like. Good grief. Read the post again. Was it directed at all men? Or some men? The vast majority of men? How do you know this? Do you have any idea what goes on every single day ? I doubt you do, because clearly you arent that type of person. Jolly good, then ignore the post, it wasnt anything to do with you. Im frankly depressed by your attitude, but since it doesnt really affect me either way, lets not worry about that. In the same vein, how could I possibly speak for everyone? Who died and made me oracle? Erm, its the Internet. Get over yourself.

For the record, gentlemen. I am quite happy in my chosen field. Im also fortunate to be able to charge what I like and not worry too much about money. This post wasnt intended to berate you, or make you feel guilty, more to point something out. If you treat women with respect and you like escorts, then you are the kind of client we treasure. Kudos. And if you look down on escorts and you feel we should be grateful to get whatever loose change you throw our way, then maybe read what I have to say. Thats all.

I cant be arsed with the pointless posturing, trying to sugar coat things or impress everyone with what a jolly good escort I am. It is what it is, and if you fancy a little insight, try answering my phone everyday. I told a client recently I wouldnt be able to see him as I was having dinner with friends. He sent me a text back to tell me whores dont have friends. Nice, eh?

[DaithiMac]

"Nice, eh? "
wow what a turd!!

[Monkeynut]

Unfortunately this type of thread needs to be posted every now and then to remind people that there is no meat for sale here. Lucy is good at posting this kind of thing, being the articulate and intelligent lady that she is.

[benin]

He sent me a text back to tell me whores dont have friends. Nice, eh?

it would seem im a whore!

[EnglishAlex]

I understand where you're coming from Ksteve, but having chatted with various escorts over the year i've been punting I feel the vast majority of posters on this forum are unfortunately in the minority.
I feel using the word abuse is perhaps a little harsh, more lack of respect/manners and servility than anything.
I don't really like posting on these type of threads as the escorts obviously have a more insightful view on the reality. I've heard of clients who come for an appt and dont utter one word or crack a smile, others who feel that the escort is their possession for the alloted time,you know the sort of thing, this position that position, leg here arse there sort of thing.
To me there missing out on 99% of the fun.

Mellors you summed it up from me pretty well tbh.

If I believed my clients were abusing me that means I'm self harming by allowing them to do so. Sorry to disappoint Ruhama but I've got far too much self esteem for that nonsense. I'm not a doormat in any part of my life, nor do I expect others to be.

Also I don't agree that all men who visit escorts have no respect for them. There are bad apples everywhere, in all walks of life so of course we have to deal with ignorant pigs some of the time. That's part of the job. What's difficult is hearing people trying to bargain with you for what is essentially something extremely personal. We're allowing you inside our personal space (to put it mildly). So knowing this, to then try and haggle price or encourage ladies to drop their fee is outrageous! Nice clients wouldn't dream of doing this. If the lady charged too much for their budget, they'd simply see another escort or save up. Simple.

We're people, just like everybody else. Society has let us down, and continues to do so by making out we're either devious manipulative egotistical bitches or the other end of the scale: dragged into the job and locked in a flat by a pimp. Newsflash! We're business women, running a business in extremely difficult times.

What Lucy said in her op about selling a little of ourselves: to me that means I make sacrifices to do this job. I don't usually spend much time at home so I don't see family and friends as much as I'd like. Sometimes, my life doesn't feel as full as it used to when I didn't do this job. They're sacrifices I'm happy to make (for a preplanned time frame) in order to earn.

[paul_m]

you should try being on the dole for over a year, that will take away your soul and your dignity in one go.