Wtf is it with all the disappeared today?

[El Gordo]

if I recall there was as much sniping at the mods back then than there is now. the mods that are in place now are just as good if not better than most of the old ones. Very funny the way the past looks better now. People must have short memories

Not a very sensible argument, is it? We complained so much then because we didn't yet know that it would get worse. Sorry for not being clairvoyant.

[Doozer]

Not a very sensible argument, is it? We complained so much then because we didn't yet know that it would get worse. Sorry for not being clairvoyant.

ok let me say this. Back in the old days there was no structure, not so many rules for mods and even mod accountability was scarce. That has all changed now and surely thats a good thing. Threads aren't locked willy nilly and bannings are discussed more and not just dished out on a whim

[El Gordo]

ok let me say this. Back in the old days there was no structure, not so many rules for mods and even mod accountability was scarce. That has all changed now and surely thats a good thing. Threads aren't locked willy nilly and bannings are discussed more and not just dished out on a whim

There were definitely problems in the old days. That's what I meant when I said "The good old days are rarely as good as people remember." There are also problems now. Mostly different problems. I'd say the main problem now is that there is simply too much modding. Which problems you prefer is obviously a personal and subjective question. On the whole I preferred the old problems.

[Doozer]

There were definitely problems in the old days. That's what I meant when I said "The good old days are rarely as good as people remember." There are also problems now. Mostly different problems. I'd say the main problem now is that there is simply too much modding. Which problems you prefer is obviously a personal and subjective question. On the whole I preferred the old problems.

that was a big complaint back in the old days if I recall going by all the complaints I read

[El Gordo]

that was a big complaint back in the old days if I recall going by all the complaints I read

It's a complaint I never made back then. You can check if you want. I think, and said at the time, that mods were often reacting to the wrong things. Which included overreacting to some things and underreacting to others. Possibly depending on who was online at the time. But the overall level of modding was probably about right back then. Now things are more consistent. But it's consistent overmodding.

[carlos marvado]

I disagree modding is much the same. I can say for sure as I'm part of the new and old modding ream. I can tell you all that the mods now work as hard as the old mods. They inform the original poster why their posts were deleted etc. They are just as professional as before. They work long hours beyond the call of duty like before.

The original mods also got slated regularly for deleted, locked threads. I think it was even worse then as there was an awful lot of trolling trying to disrupt modding. There was certain few mods who were targeted regularly by trolls. There were regular shit storms. People are looking through rose tinted glasses saying it was better then. It's just as professional as it is now as it was back then.

All those threads in the last day or two were deleted for good reasons. Sometimes someone posts something about an escort how sympathetic he is about what happened her or someone posts a warning thread but leads to revealing information about her. Surely an escorts safety and anonymity is more important than carrying on a discussion. The escorts have to come first. People complain about things getting deleted. Carlos you must remember that mods see things faster than most members. Things are quickly deleted. The members will say what happened here not realising something that shouldn't have been posted was deleted. In those threads the posters were notified of the reasons and understood why when pointed out.

PMSL. Sorry Highway, but sometimes you can be quite funny.

Back in the days of the anti-mod shit storms, when abuse was being sprayed about like shit going through a fan, people could see what was happening. Trolls or others were given enough rope to hang themselves. The appropriate response to dealing with these things got debated in the Patcave and and then they were dealth with via a progression of post edits and posted warnings or moderator's comments, official warnings/post edits or deletions, infractions and finally temporary or permanent bannings and threads being locked in extreme cases. I recall very few cases of "live" threads just being disappeared without any indication being given that any rule breaking had occured or that these threads were creating problems. Most of the times when threads were disappeared without warning, it was because somebody was trolling and dragging up a very old thread to reopen some dispute or because they just wanted to disrupt the boards by filling the front page up with ancient threads. The regularity of current topical threads being disappeared was far less back then.

The excuse about protecting an escort's safety and anonymity is a very good one, but in protecting an escort from what she herself posted about herself, is it necessary to delete an entire thread? Seems like overkill to me. People who modded in the Patcave with me will remember that I took a mod-lite approach. I was never in favour of taking any action unless a stated rule had been broken in some way.........otherwise it just gave the impression of arbitrary or biased modding or an attempt to cover up something unpalatable although no actual rules had been broken. I've seen plenty of stuff deleted on the grounds of "escort safety", when in fact there was no threat to any individual escort's safety or anonymity apparent. It's a catch all excuse........I dare say, that given a few hours, I could come up with a well thought out reason for deleting "Drop one, keep one" or "Last one to post wins"......I have it......"they are injurious to an escort's intellectual wellbeing and therefore threaten her ability to engage a client in intelligent conversation, and in this brain knumbing state of mind, she would be more likely to divulge personal information about herself to somebody with nefarious alterior motives".......see I underestimated myself, it only took a few minutes.

Answer me one question Highway. How does posting a warning that an escort is using pictures taken from another site or of another person even, endanger her anonymity or security? Surely posting a fake photo of another person actually protects her anonymity, rather than posting an actual unblurred head and shoulders photo of herself. From the safety aspect of things, once an escort posts her phone number on this or similar sites, talks to complete strangers on the phone and agrees to meet them in her place or their place, and then allows a person she has never met or knows nothing about into her apartment/bedroom, she is actively risking her own safety. Fact of life. If anyone would like to get serious about the safety of escorts or protecting them from any harm, you have two options that I can see.........either wrap them in cotton wool and babysit them 24/7, or join TOTRL and contribute to getting this business shut down. When I get out of bed every morning, or at least on those mornings when I decide to get out of bed, I start to take risks. I could slip on a banana skin while shopping in Tesco for condoms, lube, baby oil, whipped cream and cucumbers (don't ask about the whipped cream and cucumbers) and seriously injure myself, thus rendering the items I wished to purchase of no use to me anymore.

Is E-I turning into a nanny website?

You know where this will end, don't you Highway? Mothers will be logging into E-I and leaving their babies and toddlers to watch pictures of big breasted ladies instead of kids' programmes on the TV. The little dears are bound to be in their element admiring all those sources of good nutritional food. Makes you kind of hungry, don't it?

[rover]

Well, he posted in Spanish. The rules aren't exempt because we are debating the editing and deleting of posts.

My mistake Sam, I was hinting at something totally different and being pissed I got it all arseways, so my apologies to yourself and Benny. (It might have helped if I even read the post).

I suppose I'd better go and stand in the corner.

[El Gordo]

Rover, if you looked like that you wouldn't have to pay for sex.

[rover]

Rover, if you looked like that you wouldn't have to pay for sex.

Oops, Fuck! that's a picture of my Grand daughter.

[samlad]

PMSL. Sorry Highway, but sometimes you can be quite funny.

Back in the days of the anti-mod shit storms, when abuse was being sprayed about like shit going through a fan, people could see what was happening. Trolls or others were given enough rope to hang themselves. The appropriate response to dealing with these things got debated in the Patcave and and then they were dealth with via a progression of post edits and posted warnings or moderator's comments, official warnings/post edits or deletions, infractions and finally temporary or permanent bannings and threads being locked in extreme cases. I recall very few cases of "live" threads just being disappeared without any indication being given that any rule breaking had occured or that these threads were creating problems. Most of the times when threads were disappeared without warning, it was because somebody was trolling and dragging up a very old thread to reopen some dispute or because they just wanted to disrupt the boards by filling the front page up with ancient threads. The regularity of current topical threads being disappeared was far less back then.

The excuse about protecting an escort's safety and anonymity is a very good one, but in protecting an escort from what she herself posted about herself, is it necessary to delete an entire thread? Seems like overkill to me. People who modded in the Patcave with me will remember that I took a mod-lite approach. I was never in favour of taking any action unless a stated rule had been broken in some way.........otherwise it just gave the impression of arbitrary or biased modding or an attempt to cover up something unpalatable although no actual rules had been broken. I've seen plenty of stuff deleted on the grounds of "escort safety", when in fact there was no threat to any individual escort's safety or anonymity apparent. It's a catch all excuse........I dare say, that given a few hours, I could come up with a well thought out reason for deleting "Drop one, keep one" or "Last one to post wins"......I have it......"they are injurious to an escort's intellectual wellbeing and therefore threaten her ability to engage a client in intelligent conversation, and in this brain knumbing state of mind, she would be more likely to divulge personal information about herself to somebody with nefarious alterior motives".......see I underestimated myself, it only took a few minutes.

Answer me one question Highway. How does posting a warning that an escort is using pictures taken from another site or of another person even, endanger her anonymity or security? Surely posting a fake photo of another person actually protects her anonymity, rather than posting an actual unblurred head and shoulders photo of herself. From the safety aspect of things, once an escort posts her phone number on this or similar sites, talks to complete strangers on the phone and agrees to meet them in her place or their place, and then allows a person she has never met or knows nothing about into her apartment/bedroom, she is actively risking her own safety. Fact of life. If anyone would like to get serious about the safety of escorts or protecting them from any harm, you have two options that I can see.........either wrap them in cotton wool and babysit them 24/7, or join TOTRL and contribute to getting this business shut down. When I get out of bed every morning, or at least on those mornings when I decide to get out of bed, I start to take risks. I could slip on a banana skin while shopping in Tesco for condoms, lube, baby oil, whipped cream and cucumbers (don't ask about the whipped cream and cucumbers) and seriously injure myself, thus rendering the items I wished to purchase of no use to me anymore.

Is E-I turning into a nanny website?

You know where this will end, don't you Highway? Mothers will be logging into E-I and leaving their babies and toddlers to watch pictures of big breasted ladies instead of kids' programmes on the TV. The little dears are bound to be in their element admiring all those sources of good nutritional food. Makes you kind of hungry, don't it?

Rather patronising, but to answer a couple of points:

Yes, it was necessary (in my opinion) to delete the whole thread. As it would have been so heavily edited, it would have lacked cohesion and would have left a vicious circle of questions regarding things that were deleted, with the usual suspects jumping in asking things for the sake of it just to amuse themselves.

You're over-reacting by suggesting that the moderating is going to be responsible for 'shutting this business down'. The 'nanny' approach is our way if trying to help escorts that request our help, and if you find it ridiculous, fair enough; it still doesn't entitle everyone to know everyone elses' business.

The truth is, in the latter months of your modship, you seldom posted and there were times when things changed and you weren't aware of the situation, so you weren't always in the loop either.

As for posting about fake pictures, well the example referred to her was posted in the general chat section first of all. Secondly, several people were reminded to process things properly, so that this ridiculous situation wouldn't have occurred in the first place.

If glamour models get such a 'warm welcome' in the first place, why would they bother to continue advertising in Ireland? Rather ironic suggesting that it is E-I that is damaging the business.