Trafficking - A balanced View

[Lucy Chambers]

Your statement while talking about trafficking !



I have it with you !
Why do you need to belittle people or patronize them to drive a point home ?
I took you as aperson who stands above such , but well I was absolut wrong !!!

We should just agree to disagree and leave it at this !
I will send you the source of my figure when I have time , its not my mainconcern to please you , I actually work aside !


If I get an infraction for speaking my mind , you are welcome and its was worth it

A bit of an own goal there Lilian. Why are you so angry? Its only a debate

I don't agree to disagree, as I dont believe I put a point forward. You did however

To clarify, I didnt call trafficking exporting, I was commenting on the unlikelyhood of mass immigration on that scale being missed. Perhaps my English isnt very clear for you? Im not sure.

[warmcome]

Just a little aside, about those 25 trafficking victims in the UK. 9 left the Medical centre the same day, refused to help the authorities and expressed anger and dismay about being taken from their homes. They also stated voluntarily that they were paid. Hmmm.

perhaps the 9 are intimidated? Bedfordshire police recieved 28 complaints
about that site, before acting. two other police forces are taking similar prosecutions.
theres bound to be somemink in it?

[Apollo1]

Good thread Lucy

Here's what I've picked up on the past few weeks:

1) Some escorts seem to actually pay to be trafficked; i.e. they actually seek the help of certain 'organisations' in order to be shipped into the country to work. It's not necessarily against their will

2) There are escorts that get caught working in numbers in the same place and they seem to loosely use the term 'trafficking' in order to get let off with a lighter charge and a free trip home

3) There has been a case of a 'true' independent that claims to have been trafficked. Who says there aren't more? If that's the case, and these people can hoodwink clients into thinking everything is fine, how do they expect us to know?

4) Apollo has made several references to another site that only advertises true independents on a number of occasions. I can't help but think he may have another agenda, and I would say that if he feels so passionate about it, the only real way to be sure he's not lining the pockets of possible criminals is to stop seeing escorts.

I have no hidden agenda as regards this site i simply gave my opinion on the article that Lucy put up and this led to the debate that was had and is still ongoing in this thread..as has been said it is good to address issues such as this and to hear points of views from all sides..now fair enough the idea of screening etc is probably a bit ott but what i was trying to get at was that EI might be able to differentiate in some way between true indep and girls doing this against their will because I would think they have some sort of insider knowledge of what to look out for or who to look out for....

[Lucy Chambers]

perhaps the 9 are intimidated? Bedfordshire police recieved 28 complaints
about that site, bfore acting. two other police forces are taking similar prosecutions.
theres bound to be somemink in it?

There will defo be something in it. But until we have the convictions and facts, i am unwilling to see it as it is painted. But thats just me

[doodlebug]

There will defo be something in it. But until we have the convictions and facts, i am unwilling to see it as it is painted. But thats just me

I think the one point of agreement throughout this thread is that we can't believe everything simply because its in the media. I am not prepared to act as judge jury and in some cases executioner without proper evidence. Slightly aside, but for too long the media in this country and the UK have led "Public outcry" about "scumbags" etc very often with little or no evidence apart from "sources", this is a common ruse when the authorities can't get evidence, leak to the media and get public opinion against the individual. This approach dilutes all our human rights and demeans our justice system. Second rant over, but at least we have something that I think we all agree on.!!! Yipee

[Lucy Chambers]

I think the one point of agreement throughout this thread is that we can't believe everything simply because its in the media. I am not prepared to act as judge jury and in some cases executioner without proper evidence. Slightly aside, but for too long the media in this country and the UK have led "Public outcry" about "scumbags" etc very often with little or no evidence apart from "sources", this is a common ruse when the authorities can't get evidence, leak to the media and get public opinion against the individual. This approach dilutes all our human rights and demeans our justice system. Second rant over, but at least we have something that I think we all agree on.!!! Yipee

I fully agree with that. Phew. Today was fun

[doodlebug]

At what point do we do the group hug, I don't want to miss that bit!!!!

[TomEA]

At what point do we do the group hug, I don't want to miss that bit!!!!

You can make the first move Doodlebug...we shall agree to disagree.

[doodlebug]

You can make the first move Doodlebug...we shall agree to disagree.

Happy to agree to disagree and will not fall out with people for having opinions, even if I am diametrically opposed to them.

[Bruno69]

Dammit. Have missed all this until now.

Time to catch up. Patricia, get your delete finger at the ready !