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    Quote Originally Posted by ksteve View Post
    Yes, I have heard from some girls who go indie that they have had huge difficulty in separating from very unhappy agencies, who try to make life hell for them. Do they ever have a reasonable grievience ? Perhapsc some of the agencies spend a lot of money promoting, supporting and looking after a girl as she becomes established , only then to be ditched by her when she has made her name .
    Really, you think so ? A 200 E plane ticket, a paid profile of 100 E per week, some Penneys panties and shared accomodation ? After that she is paying for everything herself (including accommodation and profile) AND give away half of his earnings? With a good earner, they make the money back in a few days easily but if she wants to leave after even after a year she'll get trouble.

    (I'm talking here about the "bad agency" as well)

    And BTW ... what do you mean by "promoting the girl" ??? Other then her paid profile which is the only normal kind of promotion, any other kind of promotion has to be of a dodgy kind: fake reviews, posing as punter to give fake reccomendation and such.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Amy Alison View Post
    Yes, Ciara, point taken We are not talking here about the agencies as known in UK or similar, who are merely a fair employer and facilitator. We are talking here about girls that are just pocketing some bad people out there.

    One question remain in this case: if those agencies are just AGENCIES and not the bad pimping type, why do they pretend to be independent ???? Surely somebody has something to hide if they show themselves as what they are not.
    Wasnt there a big hoo haa sometime ago about an english girl here saying she was indep but was accused of being from a UK agency ? I suspect that the market movers here do not take kindly to other agencies competing here openly and this is one of the reasons why girls are described as indie when they are in fact not .

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    Quote Originally Posted by ksteve View Post
    Wasnt there a big hoo haa sometime ago about an english girl here saying she was indep but was accused of being from a UK agency ? I suspect that the market movers here do not take kindly to other agencies competing here openly and this is one of the reasons why girls are described as indie when they are in fact not .
    Yes, it was a case of such. In my opinion, it was their fault, they could have said from the start they were agencies and this would have not compromised in any way the escort/s working for that UK agency. The girl was very good in her job and very popular. If anything, I think she lost out BECAUSE she pretending to be indie.

    Nobody has anything against an agency that is truly an agency, meaning professional helpfull towards both the client and the escort.

    The bad agencies won't take kindly on anybody, indies or not, so I don't see it as a valid point, honestly.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Amy Alison View Post
    Really, you think so ? A 200 E plane ticket, a paid profile of 100 E per week, some Penneys panties and shared accomodation ? After that she is paying for everything herself (including accommodation and profile) AND give away half of his earnings? With a good earner, they make the money back in a few days easily but if she wants to leave after even after a year she'll get trouble.

    (I'm talking here about the "bad agency" as well)

    And BTW ... what do you mean by "promoting the girl" ??? Other then her paid profile which is the only normal kind of promotion, any other kind of promotion has to be of a dodgy kind: fake reviews, posing as punter to give fake reccomendation and such.
    I was not referring to the type of 'bad agency ' ( an understatement ) depicted in the recent videos but rather those Uk agencies who get angry when one of their girls decides to go indie. I dont know of any EE girls that have sought to gain freedom from their 'bad EE agency ', altough I guess some have tried successfully/unsuccessfully.

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    Quote Originally Posted by ciara View Post
    Do u honestly care that much???
    As long as she isn't being forced into anything against her will! I used to work with an agency and my calls and accomadation where sorted by them that's the parts that stress me most and I didn't speak the language, so at the time that was the best thing for me.
    As I said already Ciara, I don't care once it is a proper agency, properly run, I'd prefer if they didn't advertise as Indy but once the lady is the same as the profile and I actually get to talk to her when I make the initial call I don't mind, infect I used a proper agency yesterday.
    It is the dodgy pimp agencies that are abusing theadies they have working for them that I worry about and it is those ladies I would like to be advised about.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Amy Alison View Post
    Yes, it was a case of such. In my opinion, it was their fault, they could have said from the start they were agencies and this would have not compromised in any way the escort/s working for that UK agency. The girl was very good in her job and very popular. If anything, I think she lost out BECAUSE she pretending to be indie.

    Nobody has anything against an agency that is truly an agency, meaning professional helpfull towards both the client and the escort.

    The bad agencies won't take kindly on anybody, indies or not, so I don't see it as a valid point, honestly.
    I wonder if that it is true. Certainly, very few guys in Ireland would have an objection to any well respected, well run english agency openly sending some of their girls over here. It would be very interesting to get their views on how welcome and how safe they think their agency girls would be here.? I suspect that they might face trouble from many quarters.

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    Quote Originally Posted by ksteve View Post
    I would like to meet a lady that does escort for the 'craic ' !!

    Actually, I think I might be able to do this soon, fingers crossed !!
    Try asking her to fuck you for the craic, no money. You will soon find out what she's doing it for lol

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    All of Amys posts are great, well done
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    Quote Originally Posted by Notatwork View Post
    No HD you not the only one.....
    Definitely not the only one

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    Quote Originally Posted by Amy Alison View Post
    And to answer to Anon as well.

    It is a very difficult thing to know. A client, even a regular will visit an escort when she is aware he will be coming, so if she has something to hide, she certainly will take care of everything. Is not like you're going to see in her room the "pimping agreement contract" or be introduced to the said pimp.

    Girls sharing can be an indication. Still, not sufficient as many girls may work in pairs for their own safety. I think I would be safe in assuming that any more then 2 girls in one place is dodgy as hell though and goes beyond the safety issue.

    The proverbial knock at the door when time is up is to me also an indication that someone else controls or is helping to control what the escort is doing. If I would share with someone and I will get a knock on my door I will be truly pissed as it is my business how long I am spending with someone or if I want to run a little behind time. Still, the modern times and the internet knowledge has caught up with a lot of pimps and the clever ones are probably encouraging girls to act as independent, for the fear of his business being known.

    Level of english and knowledge about Ireland (how to rent, how to get a PPS etc) is a very strong indication. Someone who doesn't speak English at all has a nice cosy apartment, sometimes even by herself or sometimes shared with some other non English speaking girls ? That is DODGY. I know many apartments in Ireland are empty and the letting agents go very easy on tenants but still, they would not rent to someone who makes it very obvious they cannot get a job here due to the fact they don't speak the language. There are a few circumstances where maybe a friend has helped the non english speaking girl but those situation are extremelly rare as people in general are not that charitable.

    Also very dodgy. You just paid an escort and she needs to make a phone call in other language, or send a text. Many times a client won't see this, as he may be showering or the girl may dissapear from the room with the money. But if you see it, do take it in consideration. If you repeat the visit and the same happens, it is almost a sure thing. Why the phone call / message? As some of them are controlled by phone, if they don't answer when the boss rings, it is deemed they have an appointment that they haven't declared (thus keeping the money for themselves) and this spells trouble.

    What else? Phone calls handled by someone else? This is 50-50. Sometimes there is a genuine reason and the escort is not confident in English or doesn't like to be on the phone all day and she can get someone to handle her phone. But also girls who are working for someone else and don't know English can use this, only the calls will be directed by the "house".

    In general, the best thing to do when booking an escort is to search her pics trough Google Pics, search her phone number in google too (if you get multiple different hits and pics, then of course it is an agency or a con artist /faker). Check also reviews that may speak about the way she handles business. If you book, see if she is answering her phone calls and if not if she has a reasonable explanation for this. In the apartment, check for noises and any calls she may make shortly after getting the cash. It is not foolproof unless you observe her profile for a long time (and very few can do so), but at least you eliminate the most obvious cases.

    It used to be so easy to spot an agency before
    Similar set of pictures of a very poor quality, showing the same furniture, girls always with 24 hr schedule and with everything in their favourites, always having a duo partner and lots of reviewers in common (!). Unfortunately, only the really silly pimps do this anymore, as most of them caught up with the modern times. They bring the girls to professional photograps, they change their schedule, they even encourage girls to register on EI and flirt with the boys for a better business outcome
    Karin... you are awesome babe...

    Ways to know a girl is true Indie...

    She breaks pieces of furniture and takes it upon herself to get them repaired..

    During repair of said piece of furniture she apologises profusely for any inconveniences…

    She offers you a lethal cup of coffee and allows him to smoke your head off…

    Her phone rings and she throws it on the couch saying… ‘feck him’… Im busy talking…

    She keeps an amazing computerised planner of all upcoming appointments and also old appointments for accounting purposes.

    She is a smart cookie…

    Just a few pointers I have picked up in the past… I swear by them…lol

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