I'm a bit freaked out

[UKHeather]

I am not confusing anything , just saying that i would know an independent escort. I never visit an unverified, agency, or any places like that. I am totally against rape and anything of that nature. All the girls that i see are happy,jolly and very broadminded. Any fool would know by a girls reactions if she is independent, pimped or otherwise. As for today's paper i don't believe half the lies i am told or that i read in papers. There is always someone out there stirring shit.

I think you mean that girls you see are happy, jolly and broadminded..whilst you are there. This is not proof of independence. Some girls in Ireland ARE working against their will. To state that you would know if a lady wasn't independent by her reactions is totally ignorant.

[Invisibleman]

Mioux has very strong views on the escort industry and I would largely disagree with her views I think, but she has never been stopped from posting her views here, as she is entitled to her opinion I think. But this thread seems very disingenuous on her part. Given Mioux's support of Ruhama and relationship to Ruhama, I find it hard to believe that she is genuinely 'freaked out' by a Ruhama attack on TOBL. On the contrary, I would have thought Mioux would be quite familiar the sort of information about TOBL that Ruhama is engaged in spreading to try to discredit TOBL. In any event, this thread is supposed to be about TOBL, so lets keep it on topic from now on please.

I would dearly love to continue to discuss the "various" topics that were raised by Mioux's post, but as is clear by your choosen direction for this thread to follow the path and subject you wish it to follow I fear as happens all too often the discussion will not happen.

I do like how you pint out tht it is "disingenuous on her part" but if th s ame was said about yourself in relation to your interests i feelit wouldnt be accepted nor allowed!

TOBL is what it is and regardless of wht anyones "political" agenda is in using it to thier own advantage it still doesnt change the fact tht it cannot be discussed freely in its entire form on this thread.

I will refrain f rom mentioning any other points in the post by Mioux for the reasons I have explained and you have clearly written for all to see..... and obey!

[saoirsemac]

I am not confusing anything , just saying that i would know an independent escort. I never visit an unverified, agency, or any places like that. I am totally against rape and anything of that nature. All the girls that i see are happy,jolly and very broadminded. Any fool would know by a girls reactions if she is independent, pimped or otherwise. As for today's paper i don't believe half the lies i am told or that i read in papers. There is always someone out there stirring shit.

sorry to pick but u know i do love to had a peep at ur reviews where i found two obvious agencies girls well id strongly believe to be anyway note https://www.escort-ireland.com/escor...le-escort.html nd also https://www.escort-ireland.com/escor...le-escort.html

[Invisibleman]

I am not confusing anything , just saying that i would know an independent escort. I never visit an unverified, agency, or any places like that. I am totally against rape and anything of that nature. All the girls that i see are happy,jolly and very broadminded. Any fool would know by a girls reactions if she is independent, pimped or otherwise. As for today's paper i don't believe half the lies i am told or that i read in papers. There is always someone out there stirring shit.

That is avery brave statement and i feel somwht missinformed! you truly cannot belive tht you have only ever seen onyl independent... regardless oof trafficked .... but seriously! you cant honestly believe tht... even if you like to think tht to make yourself feel better. I havent even looked to see howmany you have seen in your time but at some stage or another you have seen ageny or pimped girls.... you just didt realise it! please open your eyes.

[anon361]

sorry to pick but u know i do love to had a peep at ur reviews where i found two obvious agencies girls well id strongly believe to be anyway note https://www.escort-ireland.com/escor...le-escort.html nd also https://www.escort-ireland.com/escor...le-escort.html

That is avery brave statement and i feel somwht missinformed! you truly cannot belive tht you have only ever seen onyl independent... regardless oof trafficked .... but seriously! you cant honestly believe tht... even if you like to think tht to make yourself feel better. I havent even looked to see howmany you have seen in your time but at some stage or another you have seen ageny or pimped girls.... you just didt realise it! please open your eyes.

I was thinking the same myself and I did look at his reviews and I got the same vide as Saoirse but with different laides.Around since '09 and must choose to stay wet behind the ears

[saoirsemac]

I was thinking the same myself and I did look at his reviews and I got the same vide as Saoirse but with different laides.Around since '09 and must choose to stay wet behind the ears

great minds think alike eh

[hd7055]

Going off topic folks - but, sadly, this thread seems doomed to do so as Pat does not not want to clarify things ( sadly, as it would avoid a lot of suspicion that will remain from this thread and original article). Names need not be mentioned for obvious legal reasons but factual clarification of issues raised would be helpful - both to owners and users of this site.

So, Pat?

[Mioux]

Whether you suspect my 'motives' or whatever (and my 'relationship'(?!) with Ruhama)is beside the point.

I'm asking questions about the article about the owners of this site who have been pimps and traffickers among other horrible things.

This would apparently be true, so no wonder my integrity is being called into question to distract from the actual issue at hand.

I can't believe people know about this and are still supporting the site, and TOBL. (not sure about the involvement with TOBL though). If TOBL is being funded by a convicted pimp/trafficker, then the world really is an insane place, as i thought TOBL would be all about the individual sex workers rights, which is the opposite of pimping and trafficking.

But only a handful of the 369 people who read this thread give a fuck that the money they spend on escorts is going in large part to this man and his criminal son and partner.

Thanks for not deleting the thread though, the amount of PMs i've had saying 'can't believe it's still up' is another thing to think about'.

[sperminater]

Ok so there's an article in the Sunday world is this paper free from the gutter ?? I didn't read the article and don't want to either.... This site is run and guided by the posters who gives a shit who runs it!!! I get great solis from the people online, I've met great friends here. If I go for a pint in the local do I care where the beer comes from? If I buy a something in a shop do I know if its stolen? When I started punting did I think that what I was doing was morally correct? We're not idiots here there's a risk in punting and to think every girl you see is completely happy in what they do and know to wonder who owns the site we are all involved in an act that is agenst the law the same way as when you break the speed limit or you don't pay you television lisence why get worried about who owns the site??? I know lots of girls here who work as escorts of there own free will and pay money to E-I and make a few bob we pay cash they receive cash this alone is against the law and then we give out people who deal on cash. If a trades man gives you a price for a job +vat or says I'll do it cheaper for cash you'll pay cash won't you so don't get a bee in your bonnet about who what why inns the site do not worry about who sam Patricia fizzes doc spermie anon etc. are it's all immaterial, it doesn't matter and never believe what's in the paper who taps your phone and sells chat up advertising and then knocks our forum it's all a load if hypothetical shite