Verified Pics + Reviews - IMPORTANT

[Appoline]

ESCORTS WHO HAVE OPTED OUT OF THE REVIEWS SYSTEM CANNOT HAVE VERIFIED GENUINE PHOTOS.

Sorry, but I think that's dumb.
I both allow reviews and have verified pics, so i'm not whinging out of personal loss- but while reviews are allowed like some of the crackers- 'I tried to call her and she didn't answer, what a bitch' type stuff, then that is grossly unfair. 'Cos if I get one of those little gems that seem to be taken as allowable here, i'll be opting out too, and you can verify my photo's with no trouble whatsoever-
Same as any other girl-
Get them to send in via email a quick amateur snap holding up a paper with the date on, for you to compare to the pictures they submitted.

[bigpaws]

Patricia that is a brilliant idea!!!!!!
It would, I believe, solve two problems at once ................ pure genius!!!

Paws

[mrsbrown]

Firstly i would like to applaud:cool Patrica and her able team for all the work they have put in to hopefully solving this annoying problem that seems to take up countless ammounts of threads on these message boards.
Secondly i would like to thank APPOLINE for showing all the board members how *foul language removed* (stupid) she is at long last, but im sure you all can see the time and effort she put into her post.I personally believe that her loyalities lie within the confines of another escort directory but when it comes to money you must advertise where is most lucrative for YOU.

[Patricia]

Secondly i would like to thank APPOLINE for showing all the board members how *foul language removed* (stupid) she is at long last....

MrsBrown, please don't call other people names that are foul language... You may not mean to cause serious offense, but some people on this board might find it seriously offensive... It is better we all just don't call each other nasty names

[Appoline]

'Loyalty' to a board is neither one thing nor another, to me.
Who am I loyal to? Myself...
I'll advertise where it suits me, and pay where it works for me... Which seems to be heinously offensive to some, evidently, but is appreciated as good business, both by escorts and the sites that sell ads to them.
But I will say, that the manners and conduct of some of the people here, must surely give some indication as to why so few girls bother with this forum and the reviews therein, even in comparison to it's rivals... Who on earth can be bothered to spend their personal time being insulted by some wannabe hiding behind a nickname on a message board for giving their opinion when asked- and not, when not asked, as certain people are apt to- Mmm, I think that'll be the end of that for me.
I have reviews on several other sites where the sites don't have this kind of problem for whatever reason, so if I opt out of the review system due to the muppetry that goes on here (point in case, the response to me in this thread) I will simply add a line in bold to my advert profile, advising people to go straight to my site to find my reviews and evidence of my genuine pictures... As will a lot of genuine girls, I should think, who find it borderline offensive to be treated as fakes for not allowing their name to be blackened maliciously in mickey mouse reviews or called every name going on a forum.

[Patricia]

As will a lot of genuine girls, I should think, who find it borderline offensive to be treated as fakes for not allowing their name to be blackened maliciously in mickey mouse reviews

I do understand your point of view Appoline.

I find the ladies - like yourself - who come on this forum and get involved in the discussions - whether I generally agree with their views or not - are usually the most honest ones going, and, if all escorts were like you, we wouldn't be having this discussion as there wouldn't be a problem.

My issue is that - unfortunately - certain ladies are abusing this website and the clients they get from it by getting fake photos verified genuine and then refusing reviews so clients can't have their say. And we have to put a stop to this bullshit.

Currently we are struggling to find a satifactory way to verify photos as genuine to an acceptable level of accuracy and I feel if we had ladies with verified genuine photos taking reviews, that would serve as some sort of back up to our verification system... Because at least if we got it wrong, the clients could tell everyone this. At the moment if we get it wrong and the lady doesn't accept reviews, we often don't even hear about it, so the mistakes and lies continue on.

There are many escorts that advertise on this website that are honest and these escorts are never our problem. Then there are the escorts that I wouldn't describe as totally dishonest, but I feel should be encouraged to be totally honesty in their advertising as they are not always being totally honest currently. Then there are the toe-rags who are out to rip everyone off. I'm sorry - but these ladies do exist - You may say I should never speak like this of our customers but sometimes they aren't even our customers... They write us a cheque to pay for their advertising then a week after they've left they contact their bank and say it was cheque fraud, so we end up having to give them the money back as it is less hassle that fighting them... And you guessed it, these are the exact same ladies that I get clients writing to me about every week saying they've been ripped off by them.

We are in a unique position here. The escort industry is not like any other industry... People like their privacy... I can't ask every escort that advertises here to provide me with her passport ID before I take her ad so as to stop the bad ladies coming back every month under a new alias, and clients can't take the ladies to the small claims court when they get ripped off. It is a unique situation we have here and I think we have to come up with unique and inventive solutions to tackle the problems.

Pat x

[Patricia]

" And we have to put a stop to this bullshit."


Pat,

Keep it clean? Yeah?!!! Lol!!


deleteduser

HeHe... Fair point!

[Patricia]

Patricia,

I have just visited Sofi and she does not know HOW to post a comment back in response to a review that she might dispute. Her English is strained so if I can pass on or help in any way in the communication, please do not hesitate to pm me.

I wonder is this the same for other girls. Can the website be translated into Spanish for example? Just another suggestion.... (sowwy!)



deleteduser

She can email or private message any responses to reviews to us and we will put them up. This is probably the easiest way, but if she doesn't have email, she can telephone us and give us a response over the phone. I conceed perhaps we should try to make it easier for girls to respond to reviews and that might help. About translating E-I into other languages... We have looked into this a little and found it wouldn't be practical to try to translate the whole site. We are currently trying to get our escort advert applications translated into a few other languages though, as we feel this may help... After all, it is no wonder ladies don't provide correct info, if they don't understand the questions! If anyone hear can speak English and another language perfectly, perhaps you might PM me, as maybe we could work something out. We already have a native Polish and a native Czech girl on staff here, but we could use a native Dutch / German / Spanish / Portuguese and other languages speaker to help us translate forms for those countries.

[Honey/Alexi D]

I wanted to see a few of the replies before I contributed to this thread so I could see some different opinions and solution suggestions, now I have.

Pat, You all do work hard and I think you all do a pretty good job considering, I have to say that.

Things I would personally be willing to be a part of as an escort that opts out of reviews.

Sending regular amature pics with no make up, full body and head shots this way you can know if photos are airbrushed...( I dont by the way. ) and if I do look like my pics.

A 1-10 scoring system with no details, something like;

Apperance .......... 1-10 ....... ( )

Photo match ........1-10 .........( )

Service ...............1-10 ....( )

overall satisfaction 1-10 ...... ( )

Something like that.


I also think that anyone accussed of, caught lying and posting fake/questionable reviews or recived 3 or more fake picture accusations suspended until appropriate proof presented, and investigated.

Also, perhaps you could consider hiring a independent critic. Someone who is a paying client to randomly visit ladies and write a private reviwe submitted only to yourself. If an escorts authentisity is questioned with reasonable doubt send him round. Pay for him to have a service and write a report...... Damn I'm reading this last bit back and even I can see the flaws, but hey I'm just throwing it out there.

Maybe a video application?

Unfortunately there are a few girls with genuine reasons that shouldn't have to be made public just like client confidentuality, but we could always do simillar proceedures as the States.

membership screening;

Passport number, information and picture on file, Kept only by the EI team/admin of clients and girls.

That way you could even have a number verification system.

These are ideas and very futureistic but the way things are going that maybe the way we are heading.

[Magicman]

Some great ideas thrown around about on how to verify the Photos for the profile some very easy to implement and others quite difficult to manage.

My own idea would be that if and when an escort contacts the Administration for inclusion on this site they must use a MSN/ Skype or other video link for contact.

This is not an imposition on any of the girls as their submissions are usually, I understand, made via the internet. Every Internet cafe has the facility to cater for this requirement. Once seen by the Administration, via the webcam, their photo can be verified.

This, of course, does not prevent other frauds such as misleading information, with regards to services provided and fees charged. There will always be loopholes and those who are dishonest will always find ways and means to deceive but it can and should be made as difficult as possible for deception to prevail while at the same time not making it so difficult that to adhere to the rules is an impossibility.

Video proof, via a live feed, is not so difficult.

Recently I spoke with a girl on the forum who didn't allow reviews and when I suggested she didn't look like her photo she sent me her email and we spoke and chatted on MSN. She could also see how I looked which assured her I wasn't hiding anything either. I have had a couple of nice afternoons with her but she still has fears of the present review sysytem.


Just as there are dishonest escorts we should be fully aware that there are dishonest punters who get hang-ups about matters outside the escorts control, such as availability, phone engaged and such matters. These punters often can then give a bad review based not on what makes an escort either good or bad but on how difficult it was to get the phone answered. No review should be allowed where the client didn't have a service; unless he turned up and for a genuine reason refused to follow through with the transaction. This reason should have sufficent gravity for the administration to take note of and act upon.

I hope that this is of some help in comming to a decision about how best to manage a very difficult and complex question.

Cheers
Magicman