Dying Race ???

[Amy Alison]

I just wonder … are the independent escorts a dying race in Ireland?

I usually did quite well in my business but I couldn’t help noticing how lately I seem to be doing less and less well.

My overheads for a week are a minimum 1000 Euro. Accommodation, advertising, food, cigarettes (yes, I do have a vice), transport, call credit, work supplies. This is the lowest amount in which I am not personal cheering up shopping items and since I no longer have my personal apartment, that minimum cost is reduced by not paying an extra rent and utilities.

After a week of work, I was put in the strange position of seeing that despite a few appointments I had, I still don’t have enough money to cover up my overheads !

I was able to live, eat and smoke before I was escorting, just by simply having a job, so obviously there is something seriously wrong here if I am escorting and I only seem to be doing the same things as before.

This morning, I was thinking about the expenses the agency girls have. Are they less? I should say so. Considerably less. As far as I know accommodation is paid for. Or if it’s not, at least by sharing with 1 / 2 more escorts it becomes very cheap. Phone calls are organised by someone else, that means you are not loosing precious calls while you happen to have another appointment. So, the potential for seeing more people is there. Ok, the fees may be a little more expensive, but seeing you are not alone, you can work longer hours. I am not working these days past 9 pm, because I am simply too afraid to, while if I would be with someone else, I can probably see people easily past midnight.

In these circumstances, are the independent escorts a dying breed in Ireland?
After a while, would there be just have agency escorts (declared agency or pretending to be indos agencies) that would be able to go trough the current bad? And perhaps a few resident escorts that will just stay put in one place, because it is cheaper, escorting occasionally just to pay the bills or perhaps escorting part time as they will try to get an actual job too?

In this situation, one can’t help to wonder if I would be better off working for an agency instead of being 100% independent and spoiling clients with privacy, discretion, nice friendly chats and no bangs on the door when the time is out.

I do think it’s a sad day indeed if I am contemplating the idea of loosing my independent status in favour of giving to someone else half of my earnings.

WHAT THE FECK HAPPEN HERE GUYS, WHERE DID WE GO WRONG ???

[aml]

I just wonder … are the independent escorts a dying race in Ireland?

I usually did quite well in my business but I couldn’t help noticing how lately I seem to be doing less and less well.

My overheads for a week are a minimum 1000 Euro. Accommodation, advertising, food, cigarettes (yes, I do have a vice), transport, call credit, work supplies. This is the lowest amount in which I am not personal cheering up shopping items and since I no longer have my personal apartment, that minimum cost is reduced by not paying an extra rent and utilities.

After a week of work, I was put in the strange position of seeing that despite a few appointments I had, I still don’t have enough money to cover up my overheads !

I was able to live, eat and smoke before I was escorting, just by simply having a job, so obviously there is something seriously wrong here if I am escorting and I only seem to be doing the same things as before.

This morning, I was thinking about the expenses the agency girls have. Are they less? I should say so. Considerably less. As far as I know accommodation is paid for. Or if it’s not, at least by sharing with 1 / 2 more escorts it becomes very cheap. Phone calls are organised by someone else, that means you are not loosing precious calls while you happen to have another appointment. So, the potential for seeing more people is there. Ok, the fees may be a little more expensive, but seeing you are not alone, you can work longer hours. I am not working these days past 9 pm, because I am simply too afraid to, while if I would be with someone else, I can probably see people easily past midnight.

In these circumstances, are the independent escorts a dying breed in Ireland?
After a while, would there be just have agency escorts (declared agency or pretending to be indos agencies) that would be able to go trough the current bad? And perhaps a few resident escorts that will just stay put in one place, because it is cheaper, escorting occasionally just to pay the bills or perhaps escorting part time as they will try to get an actual job too?

In this situation, one can’t help to wonder if I would be better off working for an agency instead of being 100% independent and spoiling clients with privacy, discretion, nice friendly chats and no bangs on the door when the time is out.

I do think it’s a sad day indeed if I am contemplating the idea of loosing my independent status in favour of giving to someone else half of my earnings.

WHAT THE FECK HAPPEN HERE GUYS, WHERE DID WE GO WRONG ???

I don't think agencies have advantages over independants,i believe it has more to do with ppl having less money in their pockets.In ideal world the majority of ladies would be independant.

[El Gordo]

Sadly, I think that you are probably right about independent escorts being a dying breed. Many have recently retired or left Ireland. I know some others who are contemplating it. I don't know if agency escorts are making more money. Their agencies clearly are, but I'm not sure whether the ladies themselves are. Their income is probably more predictable than an independent's, because their overheads are much smaller and the break even point is lower. But it seems like a fairly awful way to live, without real control on who you see, and with the agency always spying on you to make sure you don't see anyone without giving them their cut.

I wish I had a solution to this problem, but I don't, and I don't know if there is one.

[itstimenow]

i disagree with them becoming a dying breed,to become a dying breed mostly means that they are no longer wanted or needed,this is untrue.the money is the problem and that is clients just dont have it now.casinos are noticing it also,people just dont av the same funds as before also it seems that the average person has to work even harder now 4 less money then before maybe resulting in a person thinking twice about parting with his hard earned cash. some people work 8hours a day and onley earn 80euro
so im guessing when a man comes home from work and sits down and looks at how hard he has worked for that 80euro and still doesnt have enough to visit an escort then he starts to value his money to the point wer he just cant afford to part with it so easily,i do believe though that the in between guy is making more money then he should be from escorts.the guy that supplies the girls with a place in my opinion is taking to much because the price of renting has gone down a bit so im guessing he is paying less now 4 the apartment he is renting to the girls.there isnt anything really you can do about this as he knows you all need him more then he needs you.ireland is in a very messed up place right now and the government are squeezing us all with higher prices 4 heating.electricity and fuel 4 cars,,that ontop of lower wages and higher taxes really puts the average client under alot of preasure,the problem is an escort in a treat to us,,like a cream cake or something and we see them for enjoyment,we dont see escorts because we need to or have to its because we want to but now we just cant afford to. we want the cream cake but we need the loaf of bread.i believe though that some escorts can also survive this by becoming more careful with her spendings,im not going to say lower prices but in terms of spending yourselves i think der is room 4 improvement.i went shopping with an escort once and my god was her bill high and on very little .i advised her the next time to be more careful and shop in bulks and have a spending budget and dont go past it.she agreed and even noticed the difference next time.maybe its just time 4 escorts also to watch der money a bit better..

Sadly, I think that you are probably right about independent escorts being a dying breed. Many have recently retired or left Ireland. I know some others who are contemplating it. I don't know if agency escorts are making more money. Their agencies clearly are, but I'm not sure whether the ladies themselves are. Their income is probably more predictable than an independent's, because their overheads are much smaller and the break even point is lower. But it seems like a fairly awful way to live, without real control on who you see, and with the agency always spying on you to make sure you don't see anyone without giving them their cut.

I wish I had a solution to this problem, but I don't, and I don't know if there is one.

[Amy Alison]

i disagree with them becoming a dying breed,to become a dying breed mostly means that they are no longer wanted or needed,this is untrue.the money is the problem and that is clients just dont have it now.casinos are noticing it also,people just dont av the same funds as before also it seems that the average person has to work even harder now 4 less money then before maybe resulting in a person thinking twice about parting with his hard earned cash. some people work 8hours a day and onley earn 80euro
so im guessing when a man comes home from work and sits down and looks at how hard he has worked for that 80euro and still doesnt have enough to visit an escort then he starts to value his money to the point wer he just cant afford to part with it so easily,i do believe though that the in between guy is making more money then he should be from escorts.the guy that supplies the girls with a place in my opinion is taking to much because the price of renting has gone down a bit so im guessing he is paying less now 4 the apartment he is renting to the girls.there isnt anything really you can do about this as he knows you all need him more then he needs you.ireland is in a very messed up place right now and the government are squeezing us all with higher prices 4 heating.electricity and fuel 4 cars,,that ontop of lower wages and higher taxes really puts the average client under alot of preasure,the problem is an escort in a treat to us,,like a cream cake or something and we see them for enjoyment,we dont see escorts because we need to or have to its because we want to but now we just cant afford to. we want the cream cake but we need the loaf of bread.i believe though that some escorts can also survive this by becoming more careful with her spendings,im not going to say lower prices but in terms of spending yourselves i think der is room 4 improvement.i went shopping with an escort once and my god was her bill high and on very little .i advised her the next time to be more careful and shop in bulks and have a spending budget and dont go past it.she agreed and even noticed the difference next time.maybe its just time 4 escorts also to watch der money a bit better..

Natural blonds are also a dying breed, apparently by 2020 blond hair will only come from a bottle (good thing I am ahead times, hehe).

That doesn't mean we don't love or need blonde ladies. But the nature says otherwise ...

The same is here in escorting. We do need independents but if there is not a proper environment for them ... there will be in danger of extinction !

[katxxx]

maybe do webcaming Amy in your spare time...
Argos is very unreliable for delivery. I won't order urgent or important items ever from them.... once I was waiting for 4 month on delivery.... no comment after that.

[Amy Alison]

maybe do webcaming Amy in your spare time...
Argos is very unreliable for delivery. I won't order urgent or important items ever from them.... once I was waiting for 4 month on delivery.... no comment after that.

That is funny, I was just talking with a board member by PM about that.

Yes, I will do that as well. At the moment, the internet connection is poor using the USB stick, but when I will get settled I will defo be doing as well some web cam.

In Europe the Internet speed is fantastic, you probably know that better then I do.

If I do web cam at the moment I would say most of the time my web cam will have technical issues ...

[kidkool]

That is funny, I was just talking with a board member by PM about that.

Yes, I will do that as well. At the moment, the internet connection is poor using the USB stick, but when I will get settled I will defo be doing as well some web cam.

In Europe the Internet speed is fantastic, you probably know that better then I do.

If I do web cam at the moment I would say most of the time my web cam will have technical issues ...

See.... I'm much more than just a pretty face!!!

I have seen quite a few escorts on Cam4 of late... most of the people on cam4 are models, escorts or swingers anyway...

Other plus points of webcam work is no risk to your health or safety in any way shape or form

From what I can see and tell it has to be the easiest line of work I can think of!!!

[warmcome]

i hear ya, Amy. i'm living on a much smaller income now
from all the cutbacks, and my investments are back a great deal.
i'd say you know the solution to this dilemma, deep down and i hope
you find it. x

[anon361]

We are all in the same boat, uncertain whats around the corner, it's easy to think the grass is greener over the hill but it generally isn't, we all just have to grin and bear it and try work through as best we can with whatever we have until eventually collectively we make things better..