Originally Posted by
BIGTYM2010
The bar manager and barman accused of manslaughter of an English man in 2008
Were found not guilty today,the man was believed to have drank a cocktail of between 8-10 spirits in one go,later dying of alcohol poisoning. Mr.dalton(barman) served the drink and the order was cleared by bar manager(mr.Wright)...
My question-do you guys think they should have been charged or not?
Wile understanding it is outrages to serve someone that many drinks at once,and it was new laws and legislations that but them in the firing line,should they be responsible for what an adult decides to drink etc...
Originally Posted by
Sexy Sandy 69
The licensing laws in the UK changed a few years back, putting some responsibility in the hands of the barman & the licencee, both of whom could be fined or face jail if they knowily served a drunk more alcholol resulting in death, knowily allowing a drunk person to drive from the premises or serve a lethal amount of alcholol to a person.
However, I do think that they is also a degree of personal responsibility that should be taken into account. The guy went out to get drunk, he would've known he was drunk, his mates would've known he was drunk, his mates were probably all in on it aswell, as the saying goes 'they've all got blood on all their hands'. A tragic story that will hopefully serve as a lesson to some, but I doubt it, it's not the first such death & I'm sorry to say I doubt it will be the last, we, as a society have encouraged a 'drink culture' & it will continue.
Sandy x
I appreciate there will be varied opinion on this topic.
I fear that there is complete loss of personal responsibility in our society today. Everything is always someone else's fault.
I do feel that the man who consumed all that alcohol is most responsible. He of course has paid most dearly. But had he not died - and just ended up in some A/E department and subsequently recovered fully - he would not have been charged with any offence.
However, I do agree that bar staff need to have some degree of responsibility. This raises difficulty in the area of judgement. How does a barman (they're not all 'specially trained') decide when enough is enough? It may be bloody obvious in certain cases - but it may also lead to a complete nanny state - where one may not be able to get served if one appears slightly tipsy! (This is unlikely to occur given that bars do make their money on drink, but the law or at least fear of the law could drive us in this direction). So I think the barman were careless and negligent and should have some penalty imposed on them - but should not have been charged with man slaughter.
On the otherhand - there has been no responsiblility demanded from this man's work colleagues/ friends. They were there - watching him guzzling down all that drink! There is no mention of them trying to stop him. Who knows, they may even have egged him on? If the barmen were charged with man slaughter, the man's friends should have faced similar charges.
As mentioned above, I know people will have different views on this - hence the interest in this thread and in the case in general. This is just my two pence worth.
"Don't be reckless with other people’s hearts. Don't put up with people who are reckless with yours"