Census forms and religion

[punterminator]

Pope is only infallible when he us in the chair. Anyway the pope is just a person and lke any other person he makes mistakes. Im not sticking up for the church here but the religion should be kept separate from the people who work in it. Religion has nothing to do with child abuse

I never said he wasn't Doozer, simply that papal infallibility (which as you point out he only has ex-cathedra but I fail to see how that is relevant to my point) is what allows them to cover up the actions of paedophiles.

If you don't agree with me, that's fine. Just tick Catholic on the census forms and continue to allow these people to have influence in the education of our children. It's your choice, I'm simply expressing an opinion to which I am entitled.

[Doozer]

I'm not saying your not entitled to your opinion I am merly suggesting that you don't use abuse that has gone on be a deciding factor in your argument. Everyone has a right to decide themselves on the positives and negatives of religion but I don't see the abuse which you mentioned as having religious significance.

[punterminator]

Fair enough but that's not really the point that I was trying to make. If you truly believe yourself to be a Catholic then by all means tick Catholic on the census form. My point is that people who are just automatically going to tick Catholic out of a sense of tradition and familiarity should think about these issues and consider if they really want to continue to support an institution that believes the protection of their wealth, power and influence is more important than the protection of children.

I understand that you are trying to make a distinction between Catholics and the organisation and that's fair enough and correct. I'm not trying to influence Catholics, I'm trying to influence the "I don't believe in God but I'm still Catholic" 's .

[Doozer]

I am just as you said separate the religion from the clergy but if you then you day they are more interested in wealth than children you are not doing the same and you are using them as an excuse to knock the religion which isn't right. B2 all means people vote for what you think big like every vote think of the policies not the candidates

[jayf1]

I am just as you said separate the religion from the clergy but if you then you day they are more interested in wealth than children you are not doing the same and you are using them as an excuse to knock the religion which isn't right. B2 all means people vote for what you think big like every vote think of the policies not the candidates

what the hell are you talking about?????
there is no vote its a question on a census form.

[Doozer]

what the hell are you talking about?????
there is no vote its a question on a census form.

Its a turn of phrase

[Mousey]

And is there no way that we can accomplish separation of church and state without ticking stuff on a census form, hmmm?

[punterminator]

Its a turn of phrase

Question is still valid, in fairness I hadn't a clue what you were talking about. Did you actually read your post? It makes very little sense to be fair..