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    Exclamation Trafficking.

    Trafficking, this is a serious and emotive term, but just
    saying it a few times is not evidence of how common it is.

    The general public don't visit this site or go and meet escorts
    so they will believe what is told to them, regardless of the truth
    or motives of the agency projecting that view.

    In The Journal poll thread, i read a poster to complain that women
    were forced to see random, deficient men?

    Watch the video below, voice tone, body language leads me
    to question the real motives of the TORL campaign. Toward the
    end the woman who should be concerned with immigrants says
    "this is what we feel fuels sex trafficking."

    YouTube - Human Trafficking in Ireland
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    but trafficking does exist.
    I can't bear to read that wall of text, sorry.
    over 200 women were rescued last year from the very places you doubt exist.
    Grow up, trafficking is a real and lasting problem. It IS slavery. it DOES exist, it seems like you are the one who doesn't want to see the truth...

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    I agree with Mioux that sex trafficking does exist and agree that it is an abomination for this to be allowed to happen, but i feel after reading so many articles that have been written recently that TORL are trying to make out that it is only very few who are doing the job of there own will, they were both asked(gillian and gillian) if they had any experience in this area, NO THEY DON'T, running "studies" of the sex industry does not give any one experience enough to say whether people have been trafficked or not.

    A few years ago i ran a study looking at poverty in the town ships in Capetown and came up with 80% were living in poverty i found this disturbing and went over and stayed in a township called Kyleisha in a shanty house that is recognized as the smallest hotel in the world, having lived there for a period of three months, as that is all my tourist visa would let me do, i found that was totally wrong. The majority of these people have good jobs and are well paid, but because this is where they have always lived it is home to them and they don't want to leave, some of course are still living in poverty but that is through the aids epidemic out there and through parents of young children dying through this awful disease. It turned out that just under 40% were living hand to mouth. I know this is still high but it was much less than my original study proved.

    Now my thought is if these people want to run studies of the sex industry they should enter it, work if only for a few weeks to see that we aren't all trafficked and the majority of men we see are gentlemen, its fine for an outsider to have views but to have a totally closed mind as to what it is about just means these people are still stuck in the 19th century.

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    My opinion is that both sides have a blinkered view of each other.

    I believe trafficking/coercion is still a genuine problem in this country, more than others might like to think. I also firmly believe there is a legitimate and relatively safe way to work in this industry as is practiced by many independent escorts on this site.

    As a client I also believe it is my right to be free to pay for sex and companionship with a woman who is working as a sex worker of her own free will.

    That is where I stand and I have some sympathy with both sides of this debate.

    Is there any chance that representatives of both TORL and TOBL could meet and talk? It may soften each others opinion on the other. Even if this happened to a small degree, I believe it would benefit the debate greatly.
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    i kind of think the only people entitled to an opinion on this are escorts and former escorts, not clients.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Mioux View Post
    i kind of think the only people entitled to an opinion on this are escorts and former escorts, not clients.
    That is a very blinkered view. There are 2 sides to every business transaction.

    And you have no right to tell me what opinions I'm entitled to or not.
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    why are you taking me mere opinions so personally. believe it or not, i was not aiming my last comment at you.

    clients don't know the HALF of what an actual escorting life is like. they are not the ones who can say what is right or wrong about escorting, because only escorts know for themselves, that why men won't get listened to in this campaign!

    give me a break.

    its like saying, well i go to the dentist, so i have a right in dictating what dentists should or should not do, or something to that affect.

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    That's nonsense. Most industries and services work better when the consumer has a voice.

    And it may have escaped your notice, but the new proposed legislative model is based on prosecuting the client. So as a currently very active participant in this business, who wishes to see the business run legitimately, cleanly and safely for all involved, forgive me having an opinion.

    Anyway, this is no place for a undignified bunfight, so let's leave it at that.
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    i wasn't 'fighting' with you., i wasn't even speaking to you.

    what's a bunfight?

    nothing about the new legislation has escaped my notice but thanks for the patronising tone

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    Quote Originally Posted by Mioux View Post
    i wasn't 'fighting' with you., i wasn't even speaking to you.

    what's a bunfight?

    nothing about the new legislation has escaped my notice but thanks for the patronising tone
    Lads c'mon kiss and make up. Ye both have valid points of view argueing the otehr side of the coin
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