Indies Vs Pimped...

[Bruno69]

James has asked if 50% is an exaggeration? I dont know. Lucy, whose opinions I have a lot of time for, doesnt know either IMHO. I don't know, but if im asked for an opinion I'd say it's 60-70%!
I pays me money and I'm entitled to that opinion.
So any escorts who may be surprised by this estimate, just understand this. I'm an intelligent enough guy, have been a punter for many years , ask a few questions here and there and that's my best guess. If it's totally off the wall, let's hear about it. And if you are operating an 'escort assistance' service that you believe is valid and free of coercion and all the bad stuff we perceive about agencies, let's hear about it!

[JAMESCORK]

James has asked if 50% is an exaggeration? I dont know. Lucy, whose opinions I have a lot of time for, doesnt know either IMHO. I don't know, but if im asked for an opinion I'd say it's 60-70%!
I pays me money and I'm entitled to that opinion.
So any escorts who may be surprised by this estimate, just understand this. I'm an intelligent enough guy, have been a punter for many years , ask a few questions here and there and that's my best guess. If it's totally off the wall, let's hear about it. And if you are operating an 'escort assistance' service that you believe is valid and free of coercion and all the bad stuff we perceive about agencies, let's hear about it!

And I'll tell ya sometin else Bruno me 'ol pal, there are some Escorts currently working as escorts who are also "Escort Assistants".

[Bruno69]

And I'll tell ya sometin else Bruno me 'ol pal, there are some Escorts currently working as escorts who are also "Escort Assistants".

I'm uncomfortable with the pm rumour campaigns and don't know what to believe. I spent large parts of last weekend defending my own good name as ridiculous claims were made about my role in this business and all because I got a date wrong on a review.
That's why I'm personally happy to this thread. I'd love to see an open discussion. I fear it's not going to go anywhere though.

[Lucy Chambers]

Sorry I am not allowed to debate any longer, Carlos has asked for other contributors


Nah na na na

[Monkeynut]

At the risk of having the wrath of every female poster come down on me, may I make an observation and possibly ask a question into the bargain. Some girls advertising here are occasionally shown to be Agency as has been posted in the warning section…… so what….I possibly need educating here..

Here is my understanding and I am not condoning or criticizing either. I am somewhat confused of the following …

As I see it there are 4 different types of Escorts:

1. True independants: They answer their own phones, book their own accommodation and pay their own bills.

2. Agency Escorts: They work for a known agency, possibly arrive at a premises to work, and leave to go home when finished, or may live in. Certain percentage of earnings goes to agency (I am led to believe 30% ish)

3. Pimped Escorts: Now there is a stigma around the word PIMP. We all visualise a black man wearing a purple suit and gawdy gold jewellery, slapping his biatchs to go to work. Today’s pimps are more likely to be retired Escorts or foreign nationals who cordially organise accommodation and security for those that want it. In return for this escorts pay a percentage (I am led to believe 40-50% ish). Some girls choose to work this way cos its hassle free and has its perks. Arrive at airport, go to prearranged accom, phone is answered for them (no language problems), security may be close by…. Etc..

4. Trafficked or forced: Speaks for itself really. Doing this against their will because the pimp has some hold on them…nasty business indeed.

Ok… so if I am correct in my description of the above, and assuming that we all agree that type 4 is NOT to be tolerated, why should I only be going to type 1. My information reliably tells me that approx half of the ladies you peruse through on these boards are type 3, and a further 10% are type 2. All are happy in their lot and free to move to type 1 or type 2 etc. as they see fit. All three types offer and carry out the same service. (Now of course I know there will always be exceptions, but let’s not let the few cloud the subject at hand). Why are types 2 and 3 scorned upon? Why do we have warnings of discoveries that one is not a TRUE independent when the girl chooses to be where she is and operate as she does? I asked my little birdies “so why state you are independent when you are not”, and the answer given was “because of the stigma of being PIMPED, it scares people and is bad for biz”

Discuss.....

James, I believe you are not too far off in your understanding. Now I have not read all of the posts on your thread because I have a life, so at the risk of repeating anything, here goes.....

1. Yup, spot on and I would reckon about 30% of the escorts that advertise here are in this category
2. Close enough except you loose your free will
3. You are nearly right. A pimped escort, in addition to to what you have said, was probably brought here by her own free will, by a friend who was already here and was set up here for a 'fee', or she was here already and the 'retired Escorts or foreign nationals' you mention, moved in on her and now 'protect her' for a lump sum fee or something like 50% of their earnings. There might be other 'advantages' to this arrangement as well. I would reckon these girls account for at least half of the advertised girls on this site and a large percentage are from Romania. The problem for this group of girls is that generally the punting public do not know who is who between 'indies' and true 'indies'. In fact its hard to tell most of the time who is pimped and who isnt. Its a shame really as these girls loose their freedom and half their money and its tough enough out there.
4. God I hope we have none of those poor unfortunates here

At the root of all of this is money. Easy money for the Pimps/Agencies and good money for the Independents. Independents have more expenses I would think. I dont see any difference between agency and pimp as they both take money from the girls .....

All of the above is simply my opinion based on snippets of info picked up along the way over the last number of years seeing these girls. It could be a load of bollox but I dont think so. Long live the true independents .........

[JAMESCORK]

Sorry I am not allowed to debate any longer, Carlos has asked for other contributors


Nah na na na

Possible becase you have no more to say.... cos at the end of the day.... you knows NAAATIN....

[Lucy Chambers]

Possible becase you have no more to say.... cos at the end of the day.... you knows NAAATIN....

Maybe I don't. However, one thing is for sure, I know right from wrong. So I wont be providing any ''escort assistance''

[JAMESCORK]

Maybe I don't. However, one thing is for sure, I know right from wrong. So I wont be providing any ''escort assistance''

We're off again...

Why is an 'Escort Assistant' service as detailed above, without the coercion or bullying, Wrong. Its a take it or leave it service. And maybe a good way for a new girl to try this line of work with the comfort that all arrangements will be made. We have to assume that these girls are not fools, and have discussed the career prospect with their buddies, and when the options of Indie or Assisted were discussed, for them to choose Assisted is not Wrong for anyone. Sure the Assistant makes a few bob, but so does the girl. A Quantity Surveyor may charge 10 grand to oversee a project and you may say feck that, I’ll do it myself.. that’s your prerogative.

[Lucy Chambers]

We're off again...

Why is an 'Escort Assistant' service as detailed above, without the coercion or bullying, Wrong. Its a take it or leave it service. And maybe a good way for a new girl to try this line of work with the comfort that all arrangements will be made. We have to assume that these girls are not fools, and have discussed the career prospect with their buddies, and when the options of Indie or Assisted were discussed, for them to choose Assisted is not Wrong for anyone. Sure the Assistant makes a few bob, but so does the girl. A Quantity Surveyor may charge 10 grand to oversee a project and you may say feck that, I’ll do it myself.. that’s your prerogative.

It isn't an issue of wrong, apart from in the eyes of the law. Between you and I old chap, I don't fancy explaining why I thought it was ok to help my buddy out to a judge and courtroom. Now, kindly find one of your ''birdies'' to come and contribute to the thread, your moderator has spoken

[mellors]

It isn't an issue of wrong, apart from in the eyes of the law. Between you and I old chap, I don't fancy explaining why I thought it was ok to help my buddy out to a judge and courtroom. Now, kindly find one of your ''birdies'' to come and contribute to the thread, your moderator has spoken

Haven't gone through all the threads, lifes too short, but apart from Lucy, there seems to be a deafening silence from escorts when it comes to these sort of threads.