Trend in Cork????

[mellors]

I've always realised that escorts got a rough deal from TW's and and some clients, but I must admit until this thread I thought escorts saw it as a fairly minor irritation, I had no idea that the situation was so bad. I always turn up for an appt on time, I can't get my head round these jerks that cause so many problems.I haven't been on the forum for long, so I have nothing to compare it with, but these rumblings of discontent from the escorts seems to be getting louder, some seem to be jacking it in for good and retiring and others I think are seriously considering not coming back to Ireland. Not a good situation, what the answer is I'm not sure.

[carlos marvado]

I'm glad to see that a few of the escorts are now highlighting the extent of the time waster/no show/look and go problem in Ireland. I personally find it difficult to regard those who engage in this as genuine clients, but unfortunately their behaviour impacts on genuine clients aswell.

A few months ago, when this problem was being discussed, I suggested that possibly the only practical way that the escorts had of operating was to take clients on a first come first serve basis, even if this resulted in clients ending up being double booked. I stated that I fully understood why escorts would resort to running their business this way. At the time I was castigated by one poster for officially sanctioning or calling for escorts to double book and that this was E-I policy. Of course I was posting in a personal capacity, but I think I had a better appreciation of the problems that this presents escorts and therefore also genuine punters with than the other poster had.

I read on another thread yesterday, where a poster suggested that escorts start to ask for a €10 phone credit to be forwarded to them to confirm that a booking is genuine. This probably would not be required from regular clients or from established members with a punting/posting record who book via pm, but it might be something to look at in other instances. This booking deposit should be non-refundable and should be deducted from the fee, if and when the client turns up and pays the balance due. I believe it would put a stop to time wasting fake bookings and probably also to many of the instances of look and go.

The onus would be on the escorts themselves to discuss this idea in their private forum and to agree amongst themselves only to see non-regulars and non-established clients on the basis of such a booking deposit. There would be an incentive for escorts to join such a system, as those who did'nt would probably end up dealing with more timewasters than those who did. In addition, escorts who operated such a system would probably be less likely to attract the dangerous weirdos or psychos who go out to assault or rob escorts.

It has always been common practice when booking an escort for international travel to send a booking deposit (which is usually about 30% of the total fee) to her in addition to the airline tickets prior to her departing her home country.

[MatureJane]

the 10e phone credit works wonder. I know a few girls doing it now. As I said before, time wasters never pay - actually, I think that's how they get their cheap thrills. Of course you don't charge regulars. But first timers. Remember you are giving your address out to these people. You don't know who they are, pimps, robbers etc. Try it for a few weeks - you will be surprised.

[milkman]

For what its worth,i completely concur with carlos and jane re the 'deposit' to be paid in advance.As they've said,it really will sort out the genuine clients from the assholes who get their thrills out of merely booking .To be honest,its probably best in the clients,escorts and obviously e-i interests to start recommending such practice to each individual escorts when they contact this site to advertise.
Within a few weeks of starting the practice ,such 'booking fee' would become the industry norm in making appointments and all parties interested in improving the current malaise will see the benefits.

In short,if the 'deposit' idea is a viable solution to the timewasters ,should this site now take steps in their own 'escort advertisement' bookings to protect the girls from the morons threatening to disrupt the industry ?

[Morpheus]

This is no new occurrence. I've been to Cork 2 years ago and it has been shit just like Galway hence me not ever bothering to tour. There are TW's everywhere but at home(Dublin) I have low expenses plus regulars so it's better and much much much easier just to stay here. TBH I can not understand why so many ladies bother to tour.
Don't even get me started by suggesting that it is pimps causing this trouble. It is not! We have swapped the numbers of TW's amongst escorts and the numbers are always different. There are hundreds or probably thousands different numbers who waste time. Now how could that be pimps? I'll tell you folks what it is - general lack of consideration for a fellow human! Or for those who find it difficult to understand let me put it this way - the majority of punting public simply doesnt give a shit! Now there I said it
The good news is that what we provide is purely and simply a business transaction, so we don't expect clients to care about us. They should however stand and deliver their part of the deal and turn up for the appointment they've made. If they don't then that is something more than simply lack of manner. It is a serious disrespect. Disrespect not only towards fellow being but disrespect exaggerated towards our profession and often toward women as well. And that my dear E-I users is something that makes me want to puke. In fact I struggled for many months to overcome this but it is simply too much of it here in Ireland.
Now I like to have sex with different strangers and I like to charge them for it. I really enjoy this part of the job (the exciting combo of sex for money not just the money itself). So you would think that I would be the ideal material for being an escort. But in Ireland unfortunately it is not so. Here I have to deal on average with 10 people who don't know how to make an appointment and who often show little manner before I get someone into my bedroom and cash him. I could move and escort in another country but I become to like it here and I'm settled. So the only option for me seems to be to quit. I've been considering this lately and still thinking of it as I type. I worked only 1 day this month and I don't know whether I'll be working next month at all.
I thought I would make bigger fuss before retiring to make the most of it but at this stage I'm just disgusted with the state of the industry so I may just quit. I don't mind to shag the old, the ugly even the smelly ones but I really don't see any reason for why should I put up with such people when they cannot even be polite. So I'll keep seeing few regulars whom I pick myself and that's going to be it in the not so far future I guess.
{So Morpheus, you are one of the chosen ones (thats only if you splash on the chocies).}
So there you have it. Enough was giving out from me. I will simply withdraw myself from this situation. I've tried changing it. I've tried changing myself. So this is the last option left.

Well said Anna. You know how I feel about time keeping. Unfortunately I can only ensure that I keep to time and appointments myself. I, like other posters on this site have no control or influence on the general punting population. It really is a vicious cycle. Punters don't keep appointments, and eventually escorts double book or just see 'first come first serve'; a lose-lose situation for everyone.

I am honoured to be one of of your chosen circle. Now if only I can find where they sell those Raffaello chocs?????

[Morpheus]

For what its worth,i completely concur with carlos and jane re the 'deposit' to be paid in advance.As they've said,it really will sort out the genuine clients from the assholes who get their thrills out of merely booking .To be honest,its probably best in the clients,escorts and obviously e-i interests to start recommending such practice to each individual escorts when they contact this site to advertise.
Within a few weeks of starting the practice ,such 'booking fee' would become the industry norm in making appointments and all parties interested in improving the current malaise will see the benefits.

In short,if the 'deposit' idea is a viable solution to the timewasters ,should this site now take steps in their own 'escort advertisement' bookings to protect the girls from the morons threatening to disrupt the industry ?

I can see the value of a boking fee, its done in other areas such as booking hotels etc..(in which case its a cancellation fee).

However, I do see a problem. I am never going to use my credit card in anything that can be traced back to escorting! It would be too dangerous for me and I suspect many other punters.

Then of course there's the issue for the girls with regards to electronic transactions. There is a benefit for the girls in dealing with cash only, rather than credit/ deposits/ bank accounts - which in turn can be traced by the tax man.

I wonder if there is some other way for a booking fee transaction to be made?

[mellors]

I can see the value of a boking fee, its done in other areas such as booking hotels etc..(in which case its a cancellation fee).

However, I do see a problem. I am never going to use my credit card in anything that can be traced back to escorting! It would be too dangerous for me and I suspect many other punters.

Then of course there's the issue for the girls with regards to electronic transactions. There is a benefit for the girls in dealing with cash only, rather than credit/ deposits/ bank accounts - which in turn can be traced by the tax man.

I wonder if there is some other way for a booking fee transaction to be made?

I think they were talking about transfering phone credit, all you'd have to do is by a top up voucher, no paper trail. I would have thought 20 euro deposit was more appropriate, obviously deducted from the total.

[Anna23]

Get few males together and what will they come up with? A great idea..... that is of no use.
Firstly I dont think punters who in majority just ring with "are you free now" question would be willing to go through the hassle of sending a booking fee. I do practice this booking fee on outcalls since I need to have my taxi covered in case the outcall turns out to be a hoax and so far nobody ever I mean never ever bothered to send the phone credit.
Secondly if they did what the hell would I do with so much phone credit?!?! As far as I know you cannot pay bills or buy food for phone credit nor can you transfer it to your savings account.
Thirdly debits from credit cards to a personal account are not workable for obvious discrecy reasons.

To the gent who asked whether PM's are less timewasting - no they are about the same. At least in my case.

So I have an idea how to deal with the situation. I wont take bookings from newbies anymore. They will be offered a reduced rate on a first come first served basis. Regulars will get appointments but they will have to pay my usual rate. The newbies who are traveling from distance and want to make sure that they'll get the appointment when they arrive will have to secure this by paying the full rate as well.
So the resume is - if you want to see me in particular you need to pay my rates. If you call in on last minute askance "are you free now" - you are probably one of those who dont mind whom they will see as long as it has a vagina and you have probably called other escorts and picked the one who is nearest/ freeest/ friendliest/ most convenient/ cheapest etc. without letting the rest of the ones you've made appointment with know - you are a TIMEWASTER. Yes, that is what it means and that will be eliminated when I wont make an appointment with you but if you still come, you will get what you want and cheaper. Thats if I'm free or if you don't mind waiting.
Not the way I'd prefer to conduct business but in an environment where there is an extreme amount of TW's it is necessary to take extreme measures.

See you soon Morpheus.
And I will certainly see Monkeynut some time again.
Thanks guys!

[dave1dave]

Get few males together and what will they come up with? A great idea..... that is of no use.
Firstly I dont think punters who in majority just ring with "are you free now" question would be willing to go through the hassle of sending a booking fee. I do practice this booking fee on outcalls since I need to have my taxi covered in case the outcall turns out to be a hoax and so far nobody ever I mean never ever bothered to send the phone credit.
Secondly if they did what the hell would I do with so much phone credit?!?! As far as I know you cannot pay bills or buy food for phone credit nor can you transfer it to your savings account.
Thirdly debits from credit cards to a personal account are not workable for obvious discrecy reasons.

To the gent who asked whether PM's are less timewasting - no they are about the same. At least in my case.

So I have an idea how to deal with the situation. I wont take bookings from newbies anymore. They will be offered a reduced rate on a first come first served basis. Regulars will get appointments but they will have to pay my usual rate. The newbies who are traveling from distance and want to make sure that they'll get the appointment when they arrive will have to secure this by paying the full rate as well.
So the resume is - if you want to see me in particular you need to pay my rates. If you call in on last minute askance "are you free now" - you are probably one of those who dont mind whom they will see as long as it has a vagina and you have probably called other escorts and picked the one who is nearest/ freeest/ friendliest/ most convenient/ cheapest etc. without letting the rest of the ones you've made appointment with know - you are a TIMEWASTER. Yes, that is what it means and that will be eliminated when I wont make an appointment with you but if you still come, you will get what you want and cheaper. Thats if I'm free or if you don't mind waiting.
Not the way I'd prefer to conduct business but in an environment where there is an extreme amount of TW's it is necessary to take extreme measures.

See you soon Morpheus.
And I will certainly see Monkeynut some time again.
Thanks guys!

Unusual approach !
A regular that you know will turn up on time, you will charge more than a guy that rings and says can I come around now ?

Pity indeed if things have become like this.

[ksteve]

Get few males together and what will they come up with? A great idea..... that is of no use.
Firstly I dont think punters who in majority just ring with "are you free now" question would be willing to go through the hassle of sending a booking fee. I do practice this booking fee on outcalls since I need to have my taxi covered in case the outcall turns out to be a hoax and so far nobody ever I mean never ever bothered to send the phone credit.
Secondly if they did what the hell would I do with so much phone credit?!?! As far as I know you cannot pay bills or buy food for phone credit nor can you transfer it to your savings account.
Thirdly debits from credit cards to a personal account are not workable for obvious discrecy reasons.

To the gent who asked whether PM's are less timewasting - no they are about the same. At least in my case.

So I have an idea how to deal with the situation. I wont take bookings from newbies anymore. They will be offered a reduced rate on a first come first served basis. Regulars will get appointments but they will have to pay my usual rate. The newbies who are traveling from distance and want to make sure that they'll get the appointment when they arrive will have to secure this by paying the full rate as well.
So the resume is - if you want to see me in particular you need to pay my rates. If you call in on last minute askance "are you free now" - you are probably one of those who dont mind whom they will see as long as it has a vagina and you have probably called other escorts and picked the one who is nearest/ freeest/ friendliest/ most convenient/ cheapest etc. without letting the rest of the ones you've made appointment with know - you are a TIMEWASTER. Yes, that is what it means and that will be eliminated when I wont make an appointment with you but if you still come, you will get what you want and cheaper. Thats if I'm free or if you don't mind waiting.
Not the way I'd prefer to conduct business but in an environment where there is an extreme amount of TW's it is necessary to take extreme measures.

See you soon Morpheus.
And I will certainly see Monkeynut some time again.
Thanks guys!

I understood that experienced escorts were able to spot TWs quite easily ?

As for TWs that waste time by PM-- why do you not expose them ?