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    Default Infractions. Should things be changed?

    I was thinking about the infractions issue and was wondering why there is no appeals procedure.
    I have gotten 1 or 2 in my time, and most of them deserved, I have to say. But then I had a couple I did not agree with, so where do you go to argue your case?
    The mods and managers do in fairness, a good job most of the time, but, it has to be said are not that open to discussing infractions and bans.
    Now I know that they do discuss infractions and bans among themselves but it is very rare that they would reverse each others decision. That is human nature and people do support the people they work with.
    As this is a community forum should the community not have some voice in this?

    I suggest that an appeals board be set up in relation to bans and infractions. The board could be made up of three appropriate members of the forum community. If you wish to appeal a ban or infraction, you submit your submission to the group who will decide by secret majority vote whether the ban/infraction stands.

    This is not to dilute the power of the Mods and Managers, but, serves to give people a chance to air their side of the story and be judged on the merits of their arguement.

    I believe that this will lead to less fighting on the forum as some infracions and bans do lead to.

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    Great point. A lot of infractions seem to be given for quite silly and harmless things which leads to some people leaving the boads.
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    Quote Originally Posted by dannyboy10 View Post
    I was thinking about the infractions issue and was wondering why there is no appeals procedure.
    I have gotten 1 or 2 in my time, and most of them deserved, I have to say. But then I had a couple I did not agree with, so where do you go to argue your case?
    The mods and managers do in fairness, a good job most of the time, but, it has to be said are not that open to discussing infractions and bans.
    Now I know that they do discuss infractions and bans among themselves but it is very rare that they would reverse each others decision. That is human nature and people do support the people they work with.
    As this is a community forum should the community not have some voice in this?

    I suggest that an appeals board be set up in relation to bans and infractions. The board could be made up of three appropriate members of the forum community. If you wish to appeal a ban or infraction, you submit your submission to the group who will decide by secret majority vote whether the ban/infraction stands.

    This is not to dilute the power of the Mods and Managers, but, serves to give people a chance to air their side of the story and be judged on the merits of their arguement.

    I believe that this will lead to less fighting on the forum as some infracions and bans do lead to.

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    Sorry Dannyboy but I think this is a non runner.The managers and mods are the only people with the authority to reverse infractions and this proposed appeals board would undermine that authority.
    Besides who would decide who would be appropriate members?
    The Truth is out there.

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    Quote Originally Posted by westcorklad View Post
    Sorry Dannyboy but I think this is a non runner.The managers and mods are the only people with the authority to reverse infractions and this proposed appeals board would undermine that authority.
    Besides who would decide who would be appropriate members?
    Good points, and it is a community forum that needs Managers and Mods, but, I think the community itself shoul have a large say in these matters. It is not about taking power away from anyone but giving a voice to the community.

    I could suggest three names. Anon, El Gordo and JamesCork. I think they would be fair but a public poll by established members maybe could decide?

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    Quote Originally Posted by shirleyy View Post
    A perfect example of an unjust infraction!
    Would an apeals process not be more effective than, a fuss being kicked up on the forum for silly infractions like this one?

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    Are we not running away with outselves here ???

    These are message boards. They're not something we rely on for an income, nor are they something we suffer from financially if we get barred. Personally I've never been barred for some reason, but if I was - I mean, so what ??? What have I lost exactly ?

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    Quote Originally Posted by dannyboy10 View Post
    A perfect example of an unjust infraction!
    Would an apeals process not be more effective than, a fuss being kicked up on the forum for silly infractions like this one?
    pitty there is no more my post-reason I've been infracted..but I could pm to anybody interested!!


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    and my 1st infraction...4 receiving rude and insulting pm's from a member after the issue with ExP...


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    Quote Originally Posted by Banjo View Post


    Are we not running away with outselves here ???

    These are message boards. They're not something we rely on for an income, nor are they something we suffer from financially if we get barred. Personally I've never been barred for some reason, but if I was - I mean, so what ??? What have I lost exactly ?
    Fair enough Banjo but some spend alot of time here and enjoy it.
    This is just a suggestion I think will improve things!
    You do not post much and prob do not get as caught up in issues as others.
    (Lucky bastard that has a life! )

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