Sack Aer Lingus Cabin Crew

[ber]

I think all the Aer Lingus Cabin Crew Staff should be fired with immediate effect if they
refuse to return to work, all i hear in every interview is how much they love their jobs
and how much they want to work, well whats stopping them? get back to fecking work.
They have better conditions that most other cabin crews and very good jobs.
In the current climate u would think that they really would appreciate what they have got,
this company was almost driven out of buisness (and is still not safe) by totally unrealistic
wages , staffing levels and work practices time to cop on i think and live in the real world
I hope for all our sakes that managment dont flinch and set a precedent here.
There are plenty people out there that would jump at the chance to have their jobs.
To be honest their whinging is really beginning to grate with me

[Mousey]

[dark-knight]

Thats what Micheal O'Leary would do and he runs the most profitable airline with the newest fleet. Got to hand it to him he knows how to run a company.

[Morpheus]

Thats what Micheal O'Leary would do and he runs the most profitable airline with the newest fleet. Got to hand it to him he knows how to run a company.

I think he should run the country, even though he is a bit of a dick! At least he'll sort out our finances and muzzle the unions.

[rimmerguy]

I was just about to start a thread up about Aer Lingus and the ongoing dispute with their cabin crew . Only i'm in favour of the workers on this . They had voted in agreement to increasing their hrs to 850 from the present 800 as the company wanted , but had voted against the roster changes and rightly so says i .
It's a huge ask of your loyal staff to agree to daily changes in shift times . Imagine going into work at what ever time , only to be informed that your start time has been held back by 3 hrs . Your plans for after your days work are completely oblitterated . Child care etc would prove impossible for the majority of working mothers that are cabin crew .
Is this drastic measure by the company going to save it huge amounts of money each yr , Aer Lingus are slowly turning into Ryan Aer Lingus with their take it or else policy . If i was booked on one of their flights , i'd be ringing them up and cancelling and giving them an earfull . Bollox to that !

[ber]

I was just about to start a thread up about Aer Lingus and the ongoing dispute with their cabin crew . Only i'm in favour of the workers on this . They had voted in agreement to increasing their hrs to 850 from the present 800 as the company wanted , but had voted against the roster changes and rightly so says i .
It's a huge ask of your loyal staff to agree to daily changes in shift times . Imagine going into work at what ever time , only to be informed that your start time has been held back by 3 hrs . Your plans for after your days work are completely oblitterated . Child care etc would prove impossible for the majority of working mothers that are cabin crew .
Is this drastic measure by the company going to save it huge amounts of money each yr , Aer Lingus are slowly turning into Ryan Aer Lingus with their take it or else policy . If i was booked on one of their flights , i'd be ringing them up and cancelling and giving them an earfull . Bollox to that !

Well even with the increased hours this is not even bringing them into line with most other airlines and as regards the change in start times they wont just turn up for work but will be
notified at least 3 hrs prior to the start time. The child care thing is just blowing smoke as at
the moment there are plenty of child care providers that would be prepared to be flexible.
Its not as if they were a nine to five job already, and im sure they have already agreed with
child care that if they were delayed which can easily happen them with weather/miss slot etc
that the children wont be turfed out on the street. There was no prob with child care when they were getting an extra 12 hrs lay over time on trans atlantic flights, no rush home then

[Banjo]

If you look at this another way. What you've all said about child care in particular.

This new rostering thing is apparently very inconvenient to working mothers. I wonder if AL fully appreciates that and this move is designed to piss off and weed out the working mothers from the workforce, so they can replace them with probably younger ladies who don't have children and will work on lower rates of pay in a far more flexible manner.

Just a thought.

[rimmerguy]

Well even with the increased hours this is not even bringing them into line with most other airlines and as regards the change in start times they wont just turn up for work but will be
notified at least 3 hrs prior to the start time. The child care thing is just blowing smoke as at
the moment there are plenty of child care providers that would be prepared to be flexible.
Its not as if they were a nine to five job already, and im sure they have already agreed with
child care that if they were delayed which can easily happen them with weather/miss slot etc
that the children wont be turfed out on the street. There was no prob with child care when they were getting an extra 12 hrs lay over time on trans atlantic flights, no rush home then

So if you were to catch a flight with them , but 3 hrs before you left they called to say your flight wont actually be leaving as scheduled . How pissed off would you be that your airline could do that to you .
Do you think that creches would have no problem with little johnny not being picked up at 5 pm , but instead 8 or later .
As for the long haul flights , i doubt there would be any major effect on family life as it would be arranged in advance , so the extra rest time crew were allowed wouldn't have as drastic effect as the current demands the airline is seeking . Cabin crew on multiple short hop trips would be majorly put out , which is in my opinion , the crux of the matter for the workers .

[ber]

So if you were to catch a flight with them , but 3 hrs before you left they called to say your flight wont actually be leaving as scheduled . How pissed off would you be that your airline could do that to you .
Do you think that creches would have no problem with little johnny not being picked up at 5 pm , but instead 8 or later .
As for the long haul flights , i doubt there would be any major effect on family life as it would be arranged in advance , so the extra rest time crew were allowed wouldn't have as drastic effect as the current demands the airline is seeking . Cabin crew on multiple short hop trips would be majorly put out , which is in my opinion , the crux of the matter for the workers .

First off when applying for the job by its very nature it was always going to require certain
flexibility under new or old work conditions , secondly i doubth they would be using conventional creches but childminders as creches tend to open more to accomodate regular
working hrs and regardless of rosters they would often not finish till late anyway.
Im also fairly sure this will happen now and again and not on a regular basis.
The point of the 3 hr delay in the flight is a totally different argument, im a customer
buying a service they are employees providing one.Im parting with cash they are
recieving it. The bottom line is that Aer Lingus was a shambles driven by union power
and cronyism while it was a state body, now there is a guy there who is trying to sort
it out,time to wake up and smell the coffee for the employees the party is over

[releasetherat]

united we stand divided we fall, more workers should be prepared to stand up and protect there pay and condition dont forget that people before you fought for what you have now only for the bosses to bullshit you into taken the conditions away like fcuk a would.