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    Quote Originally Posted by lucy chambers View Post
    Unfortunately Catholicism was hijacked by a few tyrannical men, and twisted into the moral guilt trip we find today. No faith is perfect, but unfortunately the priests have cut ours to fit.
    What guilt trip?

    It is an organisation with rules!
    All religions have them.
    If you do not agree with them you have two options 1. Leave or 2. do your best to change those rules from within.

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    Quote Originally Posted by dannyboy10 View Post
    What guilt trip?

    It is an organisation with rules!
    All religions have them.
    If you do not agree with them you have two options 1. Leave or 2. do your best to change those rules from within.
    I question the interpretation of those 'rules'. For as long as I question the men that interpreted them, I shall follow my faith in my own way. There should be no rules in loving God.
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    Quote Originally Posted by lucy chambers View Post
    I question the interpretation of those 'rules'. For as long as I question the men that interpreted them, I shall follow my faith in my own way. There should be no rules in loving God.
    A little simplistic I think.

    Nobody can forbid you loving God but no society can exist without ideals or rules!

    But the topic is are we ungrateful for all they have provided.

    Is it fashionable to bash the Church?

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    The thing about teh Catholic Church is that they have indeed done good works, even helpoed out the poor and the likes. Leaving the peado priests out of it, as in reality its only the small minority that abused. Its as Lucy said the Rules. Catholic church is still living and operating in acient times. Take their views on contraception. No contraception allowed in any circumstances.

    The only reason a person can have sex is if they are about to procreate andin todays soceity that isnt going to happen. So instead of looking after their flock they dooming them.

    Their issues on homosexuality is still fairly bad
    and their refusal to ordain women in the church is very outdated, going back to their being unclean during their menstrual cycle and not allowed to be in the church.

    There are indeed many more rules that they bring to the table that are not really ethical in this day an age and headed by a few old men in hats who think in academic terms rather than in practical ones.
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    Quote Originally Posted by dannyboy10 View Post
    A little simplistic I think.
    And there lies the problem. It is a very simple thing- it has been allowed to be distorted.

    Ask the women who were released from the Magdalene Launderies if they think we are ungrateful.
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    Quote Originally Posted by lucy chambers View Post
    And there lies the problem. It is a very simple thing- it has been allowed to be distorted.

    Ask the women who were released from the Magdalene Launderies if they think we are ungrateful.
    We can of course point at the abuses carried out by a minority! (OBVIOUS)

    I think most reasonable people would not condem all for the actions of a few!

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    Quote Originally Posted by dannyboy10 View Post
    We can of course point at the abuses carried out by a minority! (OBVIOUS)

    I think most reasonable people would not condem all for the actions of a few!
    Most reasonable people wouldnt however there are flaws or errors in logical processing which can account for this like cinfirmation bias etc, Think about it not African Americans are bad people but you were walking down compton and you saw An African American comming towards you you may feel a bit edgy wouldnt you?
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    Quote Originally Posted by Doozer View Post
    Most reasonable people wouldnt however there are flaws or errors in logical processing which can account for this like cinfirmation bias etc, Think about it not African Americans are bad people but you were walking down compton and you saw An African American comming towards you you may feel a bit edgy wouldnt you?


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    Quote Originally Posted by dannyboy10 View Post
    We can of course point at the abuses carried out by a minority! (OBVIOUS)

    I think most reasonable people would not condem all for the actions of a few!

    Most reasonable people follow their faith without pomp and circumstance- the priests have put themselves on a throne built on people blindly following whatever they proclaim. I don't buy it, im afraid.
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    Quote Originally Posted by lucy chambers View Post
    Most reasonable people follow their faith without pomp and circumstance- the priests have put themselves on a throne built on people blindly following whatever they proclaim. I don't buy it, im afraid.
    Wrong again.
    I would say the majority of people do engage in the pomp and circumstance whether regulary of on occassion (wedding, funerals baptisim etc).

    When you say "The priests" as if they were a singular being is language used by many persecutors (The Jews, The Blacks, The Gypsies etc).

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