pmsl at that clip, the man was a cum machineOriginally Posted by Bodybuilder
pmsl at that clip, the man was a cum machine
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ya he's a legend
For me the legend was bruce lee i would watch his movies over and over . Great actor great talent its always the talented that go first.
nope. He is and was a pure liar and a scumbag. He went around promoting Weiders supplements saying he used them and helped Weider rip off millions of ppl all while making himself and Weider millionaires. Make no mistake about it Arnold was scumbag of the hightest order. Even his comp wins were questionable. Mentzer should have beaten him in 1980 and Sergio should have beaten him as well.ya he's a legend
What he never mention much is Weider brought him to America, paid him to use his supplements, gave him an apartment and used hi as a promotion. Arnold failed to tell all those youngersters wasting their money on shit he promoted, that he used Deca and Dianabol in the off season and Primo and Winstrol just before a show.
Nothing worse than a self righteous liar and Arnold was just that.
anything but a legend,
Westside.
Last edited by Westsidex; 19-10-10 at 13:36.
LOL mixing them with alcohol, recreational drugs ,pain killers and ever increasing levels of stress is a sure ticket to an early death. I once spoke to a top guy and asked about cycling. He told me the best thing to take after coming off is anti depressants.
I agree with the benefits outweighing the risk. The risks have nothing to do with steroids but the type of steroid. It has to do with high androgens. Any drug with higher androgens over anabolic properties with have greater side effects. Also some sides are attributed to the type of derivative of the drug. Winstrol is a derivative of DHT which can cause male pattern baldness and acne. Deca is a derivative of Nortest 19 which can cause the daddy bags to shut down completely and stays in the system longer.Some steroids aromatise more than others causing high blood pressure and bitch tits. It has to do with the parent compund that each teroid is derived from. Not steroids as such.
Westside.
Last edited by Westsidex; 19-10-10 at 13:50.
Rayden (19-10-10)
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It's called making a living, If someone is sponsering you and paying you, then your expected to promote their products, Nike sponser tiger woods, ronaldo etc do you really think that Nike shoes make them any better yet people will still buy them. anyone who thinks that it's possible to get in great shape (and I mean great shape) by taking supplements is stone mad, you can't admit to steroid use even though it's one of the most important factors.
You can't doubt arnolds physique for that time, massive v shaped upperbody and tiny waist, very rare these days, I will admit he hadent the greatest legs but still an incredible physique
yeah and Beckham is a better footballer because of Pepsi, i'll just get some old hag to later on the Chanel and look like Nicole Kidman. Get a grip Westie it's only advertising and anyone with any cop on knows that there is miracle products out there. If you feel hard done by by Arnie you should keep taking your vitamins and saying your prayers to be as big as the Hulkster
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He lied about everything. His 22.5" inch arms were measured by Arthur Jones at 19.25". big difference. Mike Mentzer admitted to steroid use, so did Micaelik, so did Scott, so did Pearl. Im sure others. There are two ppl who ripped more ppl off and took everything that they could out of their respective sports and gave nothing back and those two ppl are Hulk Hogan and Arnold.
At least the Nike running shoes will come to some use.Weiders supplements went though ppls mouths and out their arses.
While your there i will post an interesting email i got from a top Powerlifter (top five in the 308ib class in the US) about PCT after use. I wont say anymore then because i find talking about stuff i actually know something about incredibly boring.Self education and all that.
i will get the email,
Westside.
Ps by the way steroid use is an important factor depending on your level of steroid receptors and uptake of the steroid by those receptors.
Its only ripping young gullable youngsters off thats what it is.By the way , young gullable youngsters and some old gullable ppl dont have cop on. Sort of like the escort is madly in love with me stuff.
Westside.
Heres an interesting read for you. Dont ask the name because im not saying.
Westside.
First of all. I am not a doctor. I just play one on Outlaws. I can only offer you my personal experience, my experience dealing with many lifters over the years, and the words of paid advice given to me by a specialist in male endocrinology. If you don't agree, that is fine. Do what floats your boat.
To understand whether or not PCT works, you should understand the feedback loop.
Every brain is wired to maintain equilibrium of hormones in the body. This is regulated by a feedback loop. When the brain senses testosterone under a certain level, it will send a signal to the testes to produce more. The testes respond by increasing production.
Every body is calibrated differently. This is why levels are different for different people. Also, this number is always in flux and is never static. Measure your serum test levels 2x in one week and they will be different.
When a person ingests exogenous testosterone (or another chemical which binds to those receptors), the brain responds by cutting off the signal to the testes to produce. Again, this is feedback. Think of balancing your pool. Shit out of whack, add chemicals, re-measure. Repeat ad-nauseum.
When signal is permanently suppressed to the testes, they atrophy. The mechanisms of why/how atrophy occurs are beyond this but we can all agree your nuts shrink (a lot), especially on long-term. My nickname at home is raisin. You figure out why.
Anyway, the longer and more your nuts atrophy, the longer they will take to return once the signal is given. Think of it just like your muscles. You stop lifting and lose 30 lbs... you can't just put that back on overnight. It is the SAME thing with the testicles. When they receive the signal from the brain to ramp up, it takes time for them to be able to produce.
Another analogy: Factory makes cars. Orders stop. Factory lays off. Economy recovers. It takes time to re-hire and kick out cars again. Same thing in the body.
There is NO arguing these basic facts.
Here is where the disagreement starts. What is HCG's role?
HCG is often touted as the missing link. It is used in the treatment of hypogonadal men. However, there is an important distinction. With some hypogonadal males, the problem is not in the testes. It originates in the brain and is do to the fact that the brain is not sending the proper signals. Here is what was explained to me (and it cost me a lot of money out of my own pocket to finally hear this so listen up):
Males who take testosterone usually do NOT have any problem whatsoever sending the signal. Read this again please. In fact, the signal skyrockets as soon as your brain detects you have stopped hormones. This was proven to me via a test which measured my level of the signalling hormone when i was 4 weeks off. It was WAY high, indicating that my brain was indeed working properly.
The problem is in fact with the atrophied testicals. No matter how much signal your brain (or you through HCG) sends, your balls simply cannot produce yet. The longer you are off, the longer it takes to recover. Period. Same reason you can't rush those 30 lbs back on in a week by training more. Takes time to respond to the stimuli.
So, does HCG work during a cycle? This is *highly* debatable. In one theory, if you are taking just enough hormone to not cause a complete shutdown and atrophy, sending this signal could artificially amplify the signal that tell the balls to continue producing. But the FACTS do not bear this out. Most people on a cycle take far too much testosterone to be able to override the body's feedback mechanism. Dumping this chemical in the body simply does not cause it to respond.
There are no clear studies on this. It is all hearsay. A lot of people, including HRT clinics are making money off unproven pseudo-science. In addition, HCG has other effects, such as raising estrogen, which you then are told to combat using an estrogen-blocker, which is also ridiculously expensive nowadays. In fact, your body is quite good at balancing itself out. You are probably not going to outsmart it. In my opinion: just get off, take your lumps and be done with it. Stop pouring money down the drain.
Some guys are completely sold on PCT, and that is fine. If it makes you feel better, that is 1/2 the battle to post-cycle blues. Personally, I used prescription HCG a few times and got absolutely nothing beyond what I did without it. But, then again, I am old and cynical and not easily fooled anymore.
Last edited by Westsidex; 19-10-10 at 14:19.
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