Why Men who use prostitutes can be as dangerous as Larry Murphy

[Westsidex]

"Studies show that men who use prostitutes regularly are more likely to be violent to women with whom they are in a relationship. Men who use prostitutes are not men who respect women."

thats fairly extreme to say the least... ... where the hell did they come up with that????

the ppl that carry out these studies are the same as Ruhama. Only for their studies they would have to find real jobs. Think about it, they get expenses, gov funding etc to carry out their studies. In other words they do f'all.

All of these special interest group have the same stuff in common. They pick one area and come down hard on that making themselves look like knights in shining Armour whereas the real reason is that they make the issue appear greater than it is because they rely on its existence to continue on ,in their nice little comfy number.

If Ruhama were really concerned about women ,why the focus on just escorts? Where were they when that rapist scumbag got out lately? nowhere to be seen or heard.

Plz,
Westside.

[Doozer]

Typical Ruhama soundbite. I see they open with budget cuts and try and demoise punters to get that funding back.
Claiming all punters are a danger to women is laughable a generalisation. Most punters as far as I am aware and correct me if I am wrong dont beat escorts. Im sure there are a small minority that do but its not the majority.
Secondly they only ever refer to escorts as traffiked prostitues and always go on about how demaning and degrading their lives are.

Now I am sure its true for genuinly trafficked women but those who are true inies dont share in this misery.
I agree that trafficed women should be protected and those involved prosecuted but insinuating that all escorts punters should be prosecuted is just a ruse to make the problem seem bigger than it is and a way to keep themselves in business.

Once again Independent escort - ok
Trafficked Prostitute -Not Ok

Its funny how Ruhama never make this distingtion

[nicegirlsarenice]

That psychopathic bitch Geraldine Rowley could be as dangerous as Hitler if she got her way in life.

[aml]

After just a look on their website a few words stuck out for me"Grounded in a christian perspective which emphasises the value and dignity of every human being"surely they forgot the lives they have destroyed that has come to light over the past year...who are they to question other ppls morals.....surely it has now come to the stage that the sex industry be to be regulated in this country....

[Lucy Chambers]

That is so far removed from my own experiences with clients it is laughable. I have serious issues being labelled as a victim, and Ms Rowley evidently needs to do her research in a more pro active way, instead of digging up sensasionalist crap from red tops.

[Mousey]

Initial reactions... first off, feminism outside of literary criticism is bullshit. The feminist movement achieved its political aims forty years now - now they're all just being bitches about it.

Anyhoo...


"The difference between having consensual sex with a woman and having sex with a prostitute is that in the former case the man must keep up some semblance of a relationship. He must put up with the woman being a person with her own needs, emotions and desires. In the latter case, there are no such obligations. He can demand that the prostitute perform whatever sexual act he wants her to perform, however repugnant it might be. He can hurt her with acts of physical violence, and he can abuse her with language which is full of hatred towards women. All those words which are used so casually in the everyday world take on a new and menacing potency in the context of abusive, forced sex."

What utter rot. The three points in this paragraph are nonsense. I don't think any self-respecting independent escort would do any sexual act she didn't want to do. Acts of physical violence towards anyone, not just women, is wrong, and "...language that is full of hatred towards women.." is an oxymoron. It's alright for a woman to verbally abuse a man?

"There is an argument that the existence of prostitutes acts as a safety valve for male sexual aggression, thus protecting other women. This disregards the rights of all women to live without sexual violence, but it is also untrue. Studies show that men who use prostitutes regularly are more likely to be violent to women with whom they are in a relationship. Men who use prostitutes are not men who respect women."

I would love to psychoanalyse a woman who is dead set against voluntary escorting. Why can women as a whole not accept that there are other women who choose to be escorts, who like what they do enough to keep doing it, and who make a shedload of money doing it? Instead, it's always turned back on the man; male lust is held up as the cause of all the bad things; which leads to reactionary chauvinism, which gets us nowhere. I have never felt like I have "used" an escort.

Man, I'm mad.

[Lucy Chambers]

excellent post. Well said.

[Ric Hardgear]

The difference between having consensual sex with a woman and having sex with a prostitute is that in the former case the man must keep up some semblance of a relationship. He must put up with the woman being a person with her own needs, emotions and desires. In the latter case, there are no such obligations. He can demand that the prostitute perform whatever sexual act he wants her to perform, however repugnant it might be. He can hurt her with acts of physical violence, and he can abuse her with language which is full of hatred towards women. All those words which are used so casually in the everyday world take on a new and menacing potency in the context of abusive, forced sex.

This portrayal of me ,is scary,sad wrong and scare mongering,I have read Patricia's anger at Ruhama with a cynics eye "sure Shes gonna hate them arent they affecting her income" but never in my years as a punter have I ever seen abuse towards girls as depicted in this article,and if I ever came across slavery where a girl was unhappy to be in the situation with me I would have tried to help her and phone a solicitor god help us from this right wing shite

[espensen]

It might go on, but on a serious scale, if any decent punter met an escort and dhe was very fragile and he sensed something was wrong from her body language, the best thing he could do is tip off the guards that something wasn't right and to check it out.

[Ric Hardgear]

It might go on, but on a serious scale, if any decent punter met an escort and dhe was very fragile and he sensed something was wrong from her body language, the best thing he could do is tip off the guards that something wasn't right and to check it out.

Ofcourse nobody gets a thrill out of having sex with an upset girl ..some do but their locked away, but for Ruhmours their is no diff between us and rapists