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    SERIOUSLY, IS TRAFFICKING THAT BAD?? because I doubt any of the girls here are trafficked? Now that depends on your interpretation of the word. If that means assisting girls come over and set up, then that's perfectly fine, the girl wants/ needs to do it because of money problems at home etc.

    If that means forcing a woman against her will, then that is a crime to me. She does NOT want to do it.

    But 9/10 times it seems Ruhama, in a desperate attempt to maintain/justify it's funding, must go over the top with these "OMG" press releases. More and more women are being driven/forced into escorting by the recession, so are Brian Cowen, Brian lenihan, Sean Fitzpatrick and the over paid head of ESB , who will raise our bills by 5%, all PIMPS/ TRAFICKKERS?? I mean, they are pushing women into prostitution to pay bills.

    We've had this debate before, but needed to get this rant out, but my points are serious.

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    I would say there is very little trafficking, and an awful lot of economic migration.
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    If you look at the Ruhama 2009 report, they say they worked with 196 women affected by prostitution. 64 of these were women encountered by their street prostitution outreach service, of which only 5 sought further assistance and are thus 'cases'. There are a total of 137 'cases', of which they claim 66 were victims of trafficking. Only 26 of these were new cases in 2009, the other were cases carried over from previous years. Only 19 of these were trafficked to Ireland, the others were women who had been trafficked in another country and then escaped to Ireland. So, Ruhama actually encountered 19 women who say they were trafficked to Ireland in 2009. Also most of the new cases of trafficking were women from African countries, mainly Nigeria.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Patricia View Post
    Also most of the new cases of trafficking were women from African countries, mainly Nigeria.
    I don't mean to take away from some of these ladies terrible plights but before you posted that my first thought on Espesens post was how many of these ladies are claiming to be trafficked to this country in order to try and get assylum here which would reduce that number even further I would imagine?
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    Yeah, Ruhama is a joke. There are infinitely more people being driven/pushed into education and "gainful" employment, but that's apparently ok and even supposed to be a good thing. I am always against anyone doing something they don't want to do, but sometimes they make the decision that they are happy to do it for what they get in return.

    Remember how the old nuns used to lock girls up in convents, force them to rote-learn things and sit still every day for hours and hours, perform all types of horrible and cruel tortures on them etc. It's really a mental sickness that they hate prostitution, they hate people who have anything to do with it, they want everything and everyone locked down. Ruhama are also an embarrassment to Ireland, when in the european countries they are legalizing it or having it legal in all but name, and here in Paddyland they're going backwards and of course missing the real kidnapping crimes that could occur surrounding prostitution in the process.
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    Ruhama gets a lot of funding, most of it from government departments, and they spend the majority of it on public relations. It's a shame that funding that could be used to help support sex workers constructively is being given to Ruhama to promote their own agenda.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Patricia View Post
    Ruhama gets a lot of funding, most of it from government departments, and they spend the majority of it on public relations. It's a shame that funding that could be used to help support sex workers constructively is being given to Ruhama to promote their own agenda.
    Be better used to help poor alter boys or victems of sexual abuse instead of focusing on minor problem like escorting.
    Im not saying they should abandon their work on trafficking but with such small numbers of cases shouildnt they try and make a difference elsewhere
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    I wouldn't wish to deny trafficking exists at all. There are lots of problems in this industry, and I think most of us believe there are some cases of trafficking amongst those many problems. But I just wish people would not try to hijack the trafficking issue for their own agenda and exaggerate and twist all the facts.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Patricia View Post
    I wouldn't wish to deny trafficking exists at all. There are lots of problems in this industry, and I think most of us believe there are some cases of trafficking amongst those many problems. But I just wish people would not try to hijack the trafficking issue for their own agenda and exaggerate and twist all the facts.
    But they have too or they wont get any funding
    What government wants to spend money on something that is not happening that much especailly in the current economic climate?
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    Quote Originally Posted by anon361 View Post
    I don't mean to take away from some of these ladies terrible plights but before you posted that my first thought on Espesens post was how many of these ladies are claiming to be trafficked to this country in order to try and get assylum here which would reduce that number even further I would imagine?
    Interesting point.

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