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    Question Is it the beginning of the end of the Roman Catholic Church ?

    The Argentinians have just introduced a new law to legalise gay marriage. Is this the beginning of the end of the tyrannical grip the roman catholic church has on this planet?

    If it can happen there, can it happen everywhere?

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    The Roman Church is losing, or in most cases, has already lost it's grip on the developed world, but is still making inroads in many developing countries. I would say that the church that will exist in Ireland in say 20 years will be radically different to what we even have today. For a start, I think we will have few, if any Irish priests or nuns left (bad news for Ruhama). In developing countries, the church can still provide an attractive career option for many people and given that Christianity is relatively new in many areas and expanding rapidly, people there may be more enthusiastic and fervent in their beliefs and willing to go out and try and re-evangelise the materialist west. I think we will see a lost more Asian and African diocesan clergy working in Ireland, which could be quite interesting. Church dogma seems to be accepted more in it's totally in these countries than amongst most Europeans who now tend to cherry pick what they like out of it's teachings. So we will have a fundamentalist foreign clergy ministering to a minority fundamentalist membership. A majority of people will probably continue to be nominal Catholics, but to all intense and purposes will lead their lives according to their own view of Christianity as a philosophy rather then based on actual church dogma. In effect, most Catholics who continue to have any belief, will be Protestant in practice. You can also expect an increase in the membership of the reformed churches and other Christian sects and in non-Christian communities.......Islam probably being the most important of these. If there is to be any conflict in the future over the direction that civil society takes, it will probably be between theists on one side and humanists, libertarians and agnostics/atheists on the other.

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    Quote Originally Posted by carlos marvado View Post
    The Roman Church is losing, or in most cases, has already lost it's grip on the developed world, but is still making inroads in many developing countries. I would say that the church that will exist in Ireland in say 20 years will be radically different to what we even have today. For a start, I think we will have few, if any Irish priests or nuns left (bad news for Ruhama). In developing countries, the church can still provide an attractive career option for many people and given that Christianity is relatively new in many areas and expanding rapidly, people there may be more enthusiastic and fervent in their beliefs and willing to go out and try and re-evangelise the materialist west. I think we will see a lost more Asian and African diocesan clergy working in Ireland, which could be quite interesting. Church dogma seems to be accepted more in it's totally in these countries than amongst most Europeans who now tend to cherry pick what they like out of it's teachings. So we will have a fundamentalist foreign clergy ministering to a minority fundamentalist membership. A majority of people will probably continue to be nominal Catholics, but to all intense and purposes will lead their lives according to their own view of Christianity as a philosophy rather then based on actual church dogma. In effect, most Catholics who continue to have any belief, will be Protestant in practice. You can also expect an increase in the membership of the reformed churches and other Christian sects and in non-Christian communities.......Islam probably being the most important of these. If there is to be any conflict in the future over the direction that civil society takes, it will probably be between theists on one side and humanists, libertarians and agnostics/atheists on the other.
    i agree Carlos, that and teh Church will change a lot in the comming decades as the priests will be a lot more liberal in their thinking rather than the archaic beliefs taht many now hold. Now that homosexuality is no longer a taboo subject many of these new priests to be will have grown up with gay friends and see them as people first, and they will have first hand knowledge as to how ordinary these peopel are.

    The battered old dogma that the Church teaches will be altered to show teh new Catholosisim, one for the people taht dosnt condemn anyone for who they are but help guide them to who they could be.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Gaylord View Post
    The Argentinians have just introduced a new law to legalise gay marriage. Is this the beginning of the end of the tyrannical grip the roman catholic church has on this planet?

    If it can happen there, can it happen everywhere?

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    Its already dead. The Roman Catholic Church ceased to exist for me ,years ago.

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    Will the roman catholic church die?...i doubt it.In this country perhaps in a few years it will be no more but 3rd world countries that were at our level decades ago will be more than willing to embrace it....
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    Can you even begin to imagine the scale of abuse that priests have most likely committed in third world countries in South America, Africa and Asia where they know their victims will never be heard?
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    Quote Originally Posted by JohnRambo View Post
    Can you even begin to imagine the scale of abuse that priests have most likely committed in third world countries in South America, Africa and Asia where they know their victims will never be heard?
    Yep thinking about would make you shudder,has this abuse been going on for centeries,has it been embedded into the faith since its inception,questions may never know the answer too.
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    Quote Originally Posted by JohnRambo View Post
    Can you even begin to imagine the scale of abuse that priests have most likely committed in third world countries in South America, Africa and Asia where they know their victims will never be heard?
    now thats a scary thought

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    We all know how long it took to come to light in this country and other western countries, I’ll never be uncovered in poor countries, never.
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