Should women rule the world?

[Lucy Chambers]

Remember what happened with imelda marcos? margaret thatcher? Well, I guess if you dont mind paying for an awful lot of shoes...Hi everyone, I am Lucy...

[Quarterpoundher]

I'm sorry Jessica but if women truly were the power behind the throne of many leaders down through the years there would have been very few wars, No mother would send her or anyone else's son to war if it was within her remit to stop it. Its Mothers that bare the loss's in wars and its men that start them (Mrs T not withstanding and in fairness she did not start that, a man did)...

The saying that they "are the power behind the throne" is a nice soundbite but the reality is different, why is it that its only in the last 100 years and more so in the 40 that women's rights and equality have come to the fore and that is only mainly in the western world, most of the rest are far behind, say "women are the power behind the throne" to a girl in Afganistan that would have been whipped just for trying to get an education before the Taliban were ousted and even now equality is sidelined to placate tribal leaders and thats just one country, if women were the power behind the scenes they would not let that happen and let it happen for so long and if they are the power and left that happen then they are worse then the men and so we have no hope of anything ever improving.

[JessicaJessy]

So Mr's Dubya Bush was really the one to blame for Iraq/Afganistan, US pulling out of climate control measures, the start of the economic decline that started with the US sub prime lending and a dozen other things ?

That puts a damper on the idea that the world would be better off run by women.

I don't think that she is to blame,because actually this was not Bush decision.Are people more powerful in this world,presidents are just like instruments!

[JessicaJessy]

I'm sorry Jessica but if women truly were the power behind the throne of many leaders down through the years there would have been very few wars, No mother would send her or anyone else's son to war if it was within her remit to stop it. Its Mothers that bare the loss's in wars and its men that start them (Mrs T not withstanding and in fairness she did not start that, a man did)...

The saying that they "are the power behind the throne" is a nice soundbite but the reality is different, why is it that its only in the last 100 years and more so in the 40 that women's rights and equality have come to the fore and that is only mainly in the western world, most of the rest are far behind, say "women are the power behind the throne" to a girl in Afganistan that would have been whipped just for trying to get an education before the Taliban were ousted and even now equality is sidelined to placate tribal leaders and thats just one country, if women were the power behind the scenes they would not let that happen and let it happen for so long and if they are the power and left that happen then they are worse then the men and so we have no hope of anything ever improving.

Do you have any idea why i thanked you for this post?Because you've said something that might be truth!I am a feminist,i support woman,but i am afraid that you might be wright:woman can be worst and more dangerous than man!

[Quarterpoundher]

I don't think that she is to blame,because actually this was not Bush decision.Are people more powerful in this world,presidents are just like instruments!

Your saying Bush did not decide to invade those countrys ? You are right in the sense that US public opinion demanded that someone got invaded as a sign that the something was being done and someone made pay but if you are saying some shady secret goverment like in the X files pulled the strings then I dont believe that. He was were the buck stopped and it was on his orders that things got rolling so if the power resides with the partner then its the wife that got him to do it.

[JessicaJessy]

Your saying Bush did not decide to invade those countrys ? You are right in the sense that US public opinion demanded that someone got invaded as a sign that the something was being done and someone made pay but if you are saying some shady secret goverment like in the X files pulled the strings then I dont believe that. He was were the buck stopped and it was on his orders that things got rolling so if the power resides with the partner then its the wife that got him to do it.

I am not talking about x-files,i live on this planet,you know!but you understand that a decision like that can't just come from ONLY ONE person like Bush or any president.Oh my god we are making politics at 1in the night.we are both crazy!

[Quarterpoundher]

Do you have any idea why i thanked you for this post?Because you've said something that might be truth!I am a feminist,i support woman,but i am afraid that you might be wright:woman can be worst and more dangerous than man!

I think thats true but the thing is we only have had a handful of female leaders outnumbered by the rest of the world and they have to be tougher then any of there peers, if it was the case that it was mostly female leaders I think you would see a big improvement and cooperation between nations, what you get not is only the street fighers and exceptionally tough women, far tougher then their peers as its so hard to break through. Can you imagine how hard skinned you have to be to break through the system in the UK and Pakistan in the case of Thatcher and Bhutto?

What I always find the greatest paradox is that the country that should have the most contenders for a female leader, the US will never have one for another 50 years at best.

[Quarterpoundher]

I am not talking about x-files,i live on this planet,you know!but you understand that a decision like that can't just come from ONLY ONE person like Bush or any president.Oh my god we are making politics at 1in the night.we are both crazy!

He cannot wake up in the morning and decide to invade the Vatican and no one will object but it is on his and only his orders that the wheels start in motion when public opinion demands it or the conditions are right. The entire Vietnam war was started by the US making something big out of a small incident as it suited its Presidents agenda. They say "the buck stops here" for a reason and if it stops with him then it starts with him also.

[JessicaJessy]

I think thats true but the thing is we only have had a handful of female leaders outnumbered by the rest of the world and they have to be tougher then any of there peers, if it was the case that it was mostly female leaders I think you would see a big improvement and cooperation between nations, what you get not is only the street fighers and exceptionally tough women, far tougher then their peers as its so hard to break through. Can you imagine how hard skinned you have to be to break through the system in the UK and Pakistan in the case of Thatcher and Bhutto?


What I always find the greatest paradox is that the country that should have the most contenders for a female leader, the US will never have one for another 50 years at best.

I agree with you on this one and i think in the previous posts we were talking about power from different points of view.What i've sustained is that a women is able to "create" a men and to run him in a certain direction,not to take all of decisions for him.Because i can't decide what coffee you like to drink in the morning.Is not easy for me to express myself in english,but i think you can understand what i mean!

[Quarterpoundher]

I agree with you on this one and i think in the previous posts we were talking about power from different points of view.What i've sustained is that a women is able to "create" a men and to run him in a certain direction,not to take all of decisions for him.Because i can't decide what coffee you like to drink in the morning.Is not easy for me to express myself in english,but i think you can understand what i mean!

I do understand what you mean, but you know Mrs Reagan took her advice from an astrologist and tried to get the President to run with what the cards said to do so there is a precident for a partner to make her husband take solid decisions and solid decisions based by weird reasons, a more sane example is Mrs Clinton, she sure had far more direct input and she was not liked for it by the US population and took years to shake off that image.

Black Btw (my coffee) now get back in the kitchen and make my dinner