Bloody Sunday Report

[Patricia]

Heard Cameron's speech. I think he should have given the apology without then going on to talk about the broader issue of problems in Northern Ireland over the last 40 years and that there has been fault on both sides. It took away from the apology for me some that he didn't stay on topic and leave it at acknowledging the wrongdoing on and surrounding Bloody Sunday.

[Alec Horan]

did the european invaders ever do a report on the genocide of the native americans i wonder

[warmcome]

Heard Cameron's speech. I think he should have given the apology without then going on to talk about the broader issue of problems in Northern Ireland over the last 40 years and that there has been fault on both sides. It took away from the apology for me some that he didn't stay on topic and leave it at acknowledging the wrongdoing on and surrounding Bloody Sunday.

There are many points of view, all are valid. I seen Britain suffer greatly from terrorism on its shores.
I believe 'they' would far rather have given over the 32 counties back in the twenties. What have they gained?

[Patricia]

There are many points of view, all are valid. I seen Britain suffer greatly from terrorism on its shores.
I believe 'they' would far rather have given over the 32 counties back in the twenties. What have they gained?

I don't think the Northern Ireland problem has been about Britain refusing to let it go. It's a British created problem of course, but the last 40 years it has been about the people of Northern Ireland, some want one thing, others want another.

[warmcome]

Today seemed to be a healing event for the victim's families.
Those wrongly killed can at least Rest In Peace.

[cartman]

the war was fought on one thing......the right of the irish people as a whole....to the right to national self-determination ....some thing the brits have always denied us.....but our day will come

[Mousey]

The innocent people who were gunned down by those scumbag paras on Bloody Sunday weren't combatants in a war, they were marching for their Civil Rights...

[Peter_Parker]

The innocent people who were gunned down by those scumbag paras on Bloody Sunday weren't combatants in a war, they were marching for their Civil Rights...

The vast majority of people killed in the troubles on all sides were innocent non combatants.

[luther]

The innocent people who were gunned down by those scumbag paras on Bloody Sunday weren't combatants in a war, they were marching for their Civil Rights...

Sadly Mousey this is often the case, but to be honest, I don't blame the paras, or not the lower ranks on the ground. It was the unit commanders and above that I blame........

Remember, in those days, on the ground in Nothern Ireland was the most feared place for a British soldier to be. Did he have a choice to join up, yes he did, but did he want to be there, like fcuk he did, he wanted to be off seeing the world like he was told he would be when he joined up 6 month before, sunning himself on some nice beach between training exercises............

Many of these were kids being told that the "enemy" in front of them on the streets of Derry had weapons and were about to use then on all of them and their buddies, brainwashed into a kill or be killed situation on those streets.........

I promise you this, if you were in that situation, being told the things that I believe those soldiers were told by those "in charge", in the heat, confusion and fear of the situation, when you'd finished shitting your pants, even if you couldn't see them, you would convince yourself that those weapons existed, and were being pointed at you and were going to kill you if you didn't do something about it..........

Was this in any way an excuse or justification for what happened???

Absolutely not............

But my honest opinion, were there weapons in the area???................Yes

Did the commanding officers know where they were or how to deal with the situation???..............No

Did they carry out an unimaginable act in a weak and misguided attempt to deal with it???............Yes

They killed, or ordered the soldiers to kill or open fire on the crowd in an attempt to disperse the entire gathering and march in the hope to dispersing everybody, including anybody who may or may not have been armed..........

One of the saddest days in a long and troubled land, and a disgrace that it took this long for a proper investigation.............

I know I'll probably get a bit of flack for my views on this, I'm in no way condoning he actions taken by anyone on that sad day, but that's just the way I see it. Did those young lads who fired those weapons have a brain to think for themselves???..........Yes, but in the army you are not paid to think, you are paid to do what you are told and are trained to obey orders and trust the judgement of superior ranks and experience...........

It's no excuse but in this instance I believe the shit should roll up hill.................................................................

[Alec Horan]

the war was fought on one thing......the right of the irish people as a whole....to the right to national self-determination ....some thing the brits have always denied us.....but our day will come

would you mind defining the Irish people ?

sure wouldnt we all be goose stepping german speaking sausage munching nazis if it werent for the brits winning WWII