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    Today there are 281 Dublin escorts advertised. Very hard to estimate how much business the "average" escort does but let's assume an average of 15 guys per week, does that sound fair? Obviously some will do a lot more, some will do less. Let's also assume that these are 15 different guys and that most punters would not visit two different escorts in a week. So that's over 4,000 guys visiting excorts advertising on E-I on a weekly basis.

    I have a feeling that my estimates are on the low side by the way. So there's a lot of it about, and among younger guys, the taboo has virtually gone, at least in male-only circles. I've talked to younger workmates who've been away on stag weekends where EVERYONE got shagged by an escort, on the basis that it was dirt-cheap and "why wouldn't you?"

    Speaking for myself I've always justified it as a way of getting sexual release at times when sex (or the type of sex you want) hasn't been available elsewhere. I grew up in the 70s and 80s when many girls "didn't" until you were virtually engaged, and many relationships floundered on the issue of sex - the guys wanted it, the girls wouldn't oblige and things went downhill from there.

    But I've never confided in anyone about punting. One workmate of my own age confided in me, but I didn't return the favour as I thought it would be very dangerous to do this. I am very clear about one thing though. Married punters need to be extremely careful because most wives would see this as a separation/divorce issue.

    I'm not a "loser" but I do see that punting is not seen as "normal" behaviour. Ask yourself how various people would react if they found out....your wife/partner....your son/daughter....your mother/father....brother/sister......relatives....friends.....workmates....boss. In most cases we have to admit they would probably be disgusted?

    I have no easy answers for anyone, I just observe that the large number of escorts in Dublin are not doing business with themselves, and it is still a very secretive activity to which shame is attached if you are caught.

    Cheers
    Vic

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    Quote Originally Posted by Victor Mature View Post
    Today there are 281 Dublin escorts advertised. Very hard to estimate how much business the "average" escort does but let's assume an average of 15 guys per week, does that sound fair? Obviously some will do a lot more, some will do less. Let's also assume that these are 15 different guys and that most punters would not visit two different escorts in a week. So that's over 4,000 guys visiting excorts advertising on E-I on a weekly basis.

    I have a feeling that my estimates are on the low side by the way. So there's a lot of it about, and among younger guys, the taboo has virtually gone, at least in male-only circles. I've talked to younger workmates who've been away on stag weekends where EVERYONE got shagged by an escort, on the basis that it was dirt-cheap and "why wouldn't you?"

    Speaking for myself I've always justified it as a way of getting sexual release at times when sex (or the type of sex you want) hasn't been available elsewhere. I grew up in the 70s and 80s when many girls "didn't" until you were virtually engaged, and many relationships floundered on the issue of sex - the guys wanted it, the girls wouldn't oblige and things went downhill from there.

    But I've never confided in anyone about punting. One workmate of my own age confided in me, but I didn't return the favour as I thought it would be very dangerous to do this. I am very clear about one thing though. Married punters need to be extremely careful because most wives would see this as a separation/divorce issue.

    I'm not a "loser" but I do see that punting is not seen as "normal" behaviour. Ask yourself how various people would react if they found out....your wife/partner....your son/daughter....your mother/father....brother/sister......relatives....friends.....workmates....boss. In most cases we have to admit they would probably be disgusted?

    I have no easy answers for anyone, I just observe that the large number of escorts in Dublin are not doing business with themselves, and it is still a very secretive activity to which shame is attached if you are caught.

    Cheers
    Vic

    many irish folks are still braindead when it comes to sexual liberation and having some harmless banter about sex etc. even alot of younger guys and girls..

    however probably not quite as shameful as some people who construct and dedicate their whole entire lives and careers around the sex industry and all its associated trimmings. a legacy no doubt. and appear in the media every 2 weeks as a result. some folk just like attention, whether its good or bad.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Victor Mature View Post
    Today there are 281 Dublin escorts advertised. Very hard to estimate how much business the "average" escort does but let's assume an average of 15 guys per week, does that sound fair? Obviously some will do a lot more, some will do less. Let's also assume that these are 15 different guys and that most punters would not visit two different escorts in a week. So that's over 4,000 guys visiting excorts advertising on E-I on a weekly basis.

    I have a feeling that my estimates are on the low side by the way. So there's a lot of it about, and among younger guys, the taboo has virtually gone, at least in male-only circles. I've talked to younger workmates who've been away on stag weekends where EVERYONE got shagged by an escort, on the basis that it was dirt-cheap and "why wouldn't you?"

    Speaking for myself I've always justified it as a way of getting sexual release at times when sex (or the type of sex you want) hasn't been available elsewhere. I grew up in the 70s and 80s when many girls "didn't" until you were virtually engaged, and many relationships floundered on the issue of sex - the guys wanted it, the girls wouldn't oblige and things went downhill from there.

    But I've never confided in anyone about punting. One workmate of my own age confided in me, but I didn't return the favour as I thought it would be very dangerous to do this. I am very clear about one thing though. Married punters need to be extremely careful because most wives would see this as a separation/divorce issue.

    I'm not a "loser" but I do see that punting is not seen as "normal" behaviour. Ask yourself how various people would react if they found out....your wife/partner....your son/daughter....your mother/father....brother/sister......relatives....friends.....workmates....boss. In most cases we have to admit they would probably be disgusted?

    I have no easy answers for anyone, I just observe that the large number of escorts in Dublin are not doing business with themselves, and it is still a very secretive activity to which shame is attached if you are caught.

    Cheers
    Vic
    I think ure analysis of the situation is 100% on the money, and what i would add is that its for me anyway the shame/stigma whatever u might like to
    call it wouldnt bother me much personally, but i think would have a huge effect on those close to me as and its prob the same for all of us as much of our
    families/relatives are of a different era and would view being involved in such activity as bringing the family name into total disrepute. As sad as it may
    seem i think many famalies would prefer a family member to be caught doing an "ordinary crime" stealing/ assault etc as they would see it as carrying less stigma . Must reiterate thats not my view but it is a general perception out there. What can i say God bless good old Catholic Ireland
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    Quote Originally Posted by ber View Post
    I think ure analysis of the situation is 100% on the money, and what i would add is that its for me anyway the shame/stigma whatever u might like to
    call it wouldnt bother me much personally, but i think would have a huge effect on those close to me as and its prob the same for all of us as much of our
    families/relatives are of a different era and would view being involved in such activity as bringing the family name into total disrepute. As sad as it may
    seem i think many famalies would prefer a family member to be caught doing an "ordinary crime" stealing/ assault etc as they would see it as carrying less stigma . Must reiterate thats not my view but it is a general perception out there. What can i say God bless good old Catholic Ireland


    I think this is very true ber, speaking from my own experience as an ex escort who worked in a fairly small town for many years the secrecy/stigma issue was and will always be there.
    Many of my regular clients are married and it seems to me that the "normal" sex life for married couples seems to stop when they are in their fifties which is a shame, others I feel may never have experienced a good or great sex life with their partners which is sad.
    I certainly would not lable men who visit escorts as losers or any other name , but I do know as you point out this is a small country and if this became public they would certainly be disowned and shunned by their families and friends .


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    spot on victor
    we as a nation, need to move on, but, i think the catholic church has created the sense of guilt, which alot of people suffer, which is very sad, i come from the other side of the divide, but be under no doubt the feeling would be much the same,

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