Focus on Ruhama

[Patricia]

I for one am actually quite saddened by this post. EI has has it's history of who's behind it, financial earnings etc. Viewing accounts, come on, is there going to be a comparison? Ruhama has an opposite viewpoint, structure etc as regards prostitution. I care for neither though view though I appreciate the moral aims and goals of Ruhama. They have taken a pop at you, you have taken a pop at them. This is an escort site with forums for both punters and escorts...we are never going to be seen as normal uncoerced individuals, free to engage in sex for money activities. I deplore trafficicking, I have heard of it, but thankfully never knowingly or otherwise experienced a girl that was the subject of such a crime. I hope to continue on as such. I theresay that Ruhama do some good, as a willing participant of this site I am not going to slate their efforts, or those of EI. Whether people think Ruhama are misguided or otherwise, I don't think it's fair to judge, particularly on this forum.... MY OPINION....

This isn't me having a pop at Ruhama. I don't tell Carlos what threads to post. Regards comparing accounts with E-I, E-I never professed to be a charity. I don't however think this post is in anyway unfair. Ruhama are out there every day telling the public that prostitution is all about trafficking etc, because that is what suits their agenda. I would respect them 100% whatever their views if they told the truth, but they don't, they continually tell lies and for that reason I don't have a lot of respect for them. They actually cause a lot of harm to women in prostitution by the way they behave.

[Smarty]

I've said it here before and I will say it again Ruhama is just a group of frustrated nuns, who would'nt get a ride off a priest.

Lets face it Ruhama was initially set up as an out reach project to help girls working the streets.

Lets face it the street action in Dublin has dropped alarmingly over the last 10 years.

With hardly anyone working the streets, they have had to reinvent themselves, to keep getting the generous Govt grants (when was the last time you seen a street collection for Ruhama), and keep themselves in plus offices.

Cue the Traffiked women who evil Irish men are abusing. They have exaggerated the problem totally.

In my personal experiences of visiting escorts over many the years I have yet to meet the "Frightened traffiked woman type" most of the girls are sound business women with a cheery disposition

[warmcome]

The subject matter and scenery of our capital may well constitute the material for an interesting film,
but fiction it is and it is gladly not a reality to any great extent. I know this through my research with many
businesswomen visiting Ireland to trade. Also, independent of my research is a report published by the garda for 2008-
They claim they discovered 4 women that were trafficked into Ireland by criminal gangs. In the same year several thousand
girls visited Ireland to do business.

[nicegirlsarenice]

The subject matter and scenery of our capital may well constitute the material for an interesting film,
but fiction it is and it is gladly not a reality to any great extent. I know this through my research with many
businesswomen visiting Ireland to trade. Also, independent of my research is a report published by the garda for 2008-
They claim they discovered 4 women that were trafficked into Ireland by criminal gangs. In the same year several thousand
girls visited Ireland to do business.

And all of them were probably just saying they were trafficked in order to get out of criminal offences, being deported, in order to get aid (money) etc. What a scam.

And it pisses me off to see someone like Mr. Fussy trying to be apologetic to Ruhama, they have no "points" or "side of the argument". There are just people who KNOW and people who DON'T KNOW, Ruhama picks on the latter and fills them with complete lies.

[MrFussy]

And all of them were probably just saying they were trafficked in order to get out of criminal offences, being deported, in order to get aid (money) etc. What a scam.

And it pisses me off to see someone like Mr. Fussy trying to be apologetic to Ruhama, they have no "points" or "side of the argument". There are just people who KNOW and people who DON'T KNOW, Ruhama picks on the latter and fills them with complete lies.

Did you actually read my posts? I maintain that EI and Ruhama have some common goals, my post was in relation to the post questioning their values etc. My point was that I do not know what their value system is, but that as a regular punter on here and with the subject matter that EI advertises, we are not in any position to become judge and jury....as I said...my opinion.

[carlos marvado]

Did you actually read my posts? I maintain that EI and Ruhama have some common goals, my post was in relation to the post questioning their values etc. My point was that I do not know what their value system is, but that as a regular punter on here and with the subject matter that EI advertises, we are not in any position to become judge and jury....as I said...my opinion.

E-I is radically different to Ruhama in one key respect.........E-I does not seek to inhibit or limit freedom of choices in respect to sexual activity or how people make their living (with a few notable exceptions of services which may not be advertised here).

[MrFussy]

EI makes a vast sum of money from its site, and isdeliberately located outside Irish jurisdiction etc. It is not a free advertising forum so I dare say it's goal is not to ' inhibit or limit freedom of choices in respect to sexual activity or how people make their living'...its a profit making enterprise, that's the goal. We are not all on here to advocate freedom of choice, punters view adverts and escorts advertise. I accept that and am happy with that, but as far as I am concerned that structure limits its ability to attack other organisations, hence my disappointment with the post. Recognise why we are here.