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    Quote Originally Posted by luther View Post
    Before we go any further Harry, I know that you're not trying to piss anybody off or offend anyone, in fact, I think you, and the other posters in this thread are to be complimented for the mature way this subjuct is being discussed here........

    And I know what you're saying, but I think it's just the way you're saying it..........

    I think what you mean is, in your opinion, a male female couple would make better adoptive parents than a same sex couple as in your opinon it's a more stable and traditional structure..............And I can't argue with that Harry, that's your opinion, but there's nothing to say that a same sex couple couldn't also provide a loving and stable enviornment in which to raise and child or children...........

    I know you don't really believe the homosexual/pedophelia thing..............we'll call that propaganda by the opposition, in particular, by the Catholic Church........
    yes female and male couples in my opinion would make better adoptive parents i am sure the same sex couples could just be as loving but maybe i'm just old fashon when it comes to these things .......fair enough its not something i would vote for

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    Quote Originally Posted by Dirty Harry View Post
    yes female and male couples in my opinion would make better adoptive parents i am sure the same sex couples could just be as loving but maybe i'm just old fashon when it comes to these things .......fair enough its not something i would vote for
    Fair play to you Harry, you're entitled to your opinion. We'll call you traditional and I won't have anybody call you anything stronger........

    I personally believe it's unfortunate that some people believe this connection exists between pedoplelia and homosexually. Although I don't agree with it, I don't hold it against them, as I said, I believe this to be unfounded propoganda by the opposition to same sex aboption and the Catholic Church.............
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    Quote Originally Posted by luther View Post
    Fair play to you Harry, you're entitled to your opinion. We'll call you traditional and I won't have anybody call you anything stronger........

    I personally believe it's unfortunate that some people believe this connection exists between pedoplelia and homosexually. Although I don't agree with it, I don't hold it against them, as I said, I believe this to be unfounded propoganda by the opposition to same sex aboption and the Catholic Church.............
    It is not unfounded, it's a FACT. F - A - C - T. The statistics show homosexuals are more likely to engage in pedophilia.

    Just because you don't like it Luther and just because it's very unpolitically correct does not make it untrue.

    You and your "it's unfortunate that some people believe", it's something that's known to be true.

    It doesn't mean we should discriminate because of that, but you can't deny statistics as clear as these are.

    "We'll call you traditional", what the hell is that supposed to mean? You're of the far left Luther.

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    would you like to postn a link to these statistics
    Now is it that homosexuals are peadophiles or is it that a homosexual act is more common, there is a difference
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    Quote Originally Posted by punterminator View Post
    I wasn't talking about that post, I was talking about the one before it where you said (and I'm going to quote it because you obviously don't see fit to delete it).
    look what i mean't is the thoughts of two peadophiles adopting a child i was just saying what if that happend thatswhat i meant i am not suggesting that homosexuals are peodophiles ok

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    Quote Originally Posted by nicegirlsarenice View Post
    It is not unfounded, it's a FACT. F - A - C - T. The statistics show homosexuals are more likely to engage in pedophilia.
    As already requested, please provide a link to these "facts", otherwise, shut up...............

    Quote Originally Posted by nicegirlsarenice View Post
    Just because you don't like it Luther and just because it's very unpolitically correct does not make it untrue.
    And by the same token, just because you say it's true doesn't make it so either.................

    Quote Originally Posted by nicegirlsarenice View Post
    You and your "it's unfortunate that some people believe", it's something that's known to be true.

    It doesn't mean we should discriminate because of that, but you can't deny statistics as clear as these are.
    Again, please provide these statistics...............

    Quote Originally Posted by nicegirlsarenice View Post
    "We'll call you traditional", what the hell is that supposed to mean? You're of the far left Luther.
    You'll understand after puberty..................
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    Quote Originally Posted by luther View Post
    As already requested, please provide a link to these "facts", otherwise, shut up...............

    And by the same token, just because you say it's true doesn't make it so either.................

    Again, please provide these statistics...............

    You'll understand after puberty..................
    A 1985 survey of U.S. data in the Los Angeles Times reported that homosexuals perpetrate between one third and one half of all child molestations. Good studies show that proportional rates for homosexual molestation of pupils by teachers is especially high - up to 80 per cent of all cases. A 1991 British Columbia Ministry of Health study reviewed 2,099 cases of child sexual abuse, and found that 94 per cent of perpetrators were male - and 50% of victims were boys, mostly under 12. The Canadian Centre for Justice Statistics studying the decade 1980-1989, found the same. Perpetrators, 91 per cent male. Victims, 46.5% young boys. Go figure.
    Pedantic Pedophiles - William Gairdner, True Conservative

    Luther, it doesn't mean homosexuals will carry out those acts, it's just that they're more likely than heterosexual people to.

    Bringing up a child with two daddys is NOT NORMAL anyway, it is NOT NATURAL. Remember how we talked about doing things in a natural way?

    If two men are so sexually abnormal that they only seek male sex contacts then that's fine, but they should do it on their own time.

    Anyway, statistics show that much of the idea of "homosexuality" is mainly just invented. About 90% of so-called "homosexuals" are shown to have had straight, heterosexual sex in the past year or so. I'll let you look that one up yourself.

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    the only problem that i see with same sex couples adopting is some peoples immature attitude to it. Other than that there are no probs imo.

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    Quote Originally Posted by nicegirlsarenice View Post
    Pedantic Pedophiles - William Gairdner, True Conservative

    Luther, it doesn't mean homosexuals will carry out those acts, it's just that they're more likely than heterosexual people to.

    Bringing up a child with two daddys is NOT NORMAL anyway, it is NOT NATURAL. Remember how we talked about doing things in a natural way?

    If two men are so sexually abnormal that they only seek male sex contacts then that's fine, but they should do it on their own time.

    Anyway, statistics show that much of the idea of "homosexuality" is mainly just invented. About 90% of so-called "homosexuals" are shown to have had straight, heterosexual sex in the past year or so. I'll let you look that one up yourself.
    Whoaaaaaaaaaaa there NGAN.Are you suggesting that

    A homosexuals are abnormal- be very careful here

    B it was invented (how can you claim such a thing.)
    B 1 Are you saying that they are confused
    B2 That they choose this lifestyle
    B3 that insome way theyn were cuddled bu=y there mom too much>
    B4 Is more of a nurture and less of a nature thing
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    Quote Originally Posted by Doozer View Post
    Whoaaaaaaaaaaa there NGAN.Are you suggesting that

    A homosexuals are abnormal- be very careful here
    I'M (as you well know) very abnormal. People are abnormal in their own ways. Since you can't reproduce, then homosexuality is clearly not the normal human behaviour. I'm not saying people should try to change it.

    I can't see right and need lenses put in my eyes every day, that's also totally abnormal and not seen in indigenous tribes.

    Quote Originally Posted by Doozer View Post
    B it was invented (how can you claim such a thing.)
    Bisexuality is undisputed. However if homosexuality becomes part of their identity they might try to push it a bit...

    Quote Originally Posted by Doozer View Post
    B 1 Are you saying that they are confused
    B2 That they choose this lifestyle
    B3 that insome way theyn were cuddled bu=y there mom too much>
    B4 Is more of a nurture and less of a nature thing

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