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    Quote Originally Posted by Alec Horan View Post
    So you agree with the Brits policy towards the Irish Famine then ?

    The causes, timeframes and response of both camalties are completly different,

    I am not going to get into a big discussion on the causes of the Irish "famine" but it was nothing to do
    with crop failure or overpopulation. It was a direct result of the english race and it's lust for money and land.
    I suggest u read Cecil Woodham-Smith The Great Hunger (1962),
    Heres an extract

    The potato was introduced to Ireland as a garden crop of the gentry. By the late seventeenth century it had become widespread as a supplementary rather than a principal food, as the main diet still revolved around butter, milk and grain products. In the first two decades of the eighteenth century, however, it became a base food of the poor, especially in winter.[23] The expansion of the economy between 1760 and 1815 saw the potato make inroads in the diet of the people and become a staple food all the year round for the cottier and small farm class.[24]
    The potato's spread was essential to the development of the cottier system, delivering an extremely cheap workforce, but at the cost of lower living standards. For the labourer it was essentially a potato wage that shaped the expanding agrarian economy.[24] The expansion of tillage led to an inevitable expansion of the potato acreage, and an expansion of the cottier class. By 1841, there were over half a million cottiers, with 1.75 million dependents. The principal beneficiary of this system was the English consumer.[24]
    The Celtic grazing lands of... Ireland had been used to pasture cows for centuries. The British colonized... the Irish, transforming much of their countryside into an extended grazing land to raise cattle for a hungry consumer market at home... The British taste for beef had a devastating impact on the impoverished and disenfranchised people of... Ireland... Pushed off the best pasture land and forced to farm smaller plots of marginal land, the Irish turned to the potato, a crop that could be grown abundantly in less favorable soil. Eventually, cows took over much of Ireland, leaving the native population virtually dependent on the potato for survival.




    Regarding the ethipohia situtain and the situation in parts of developing world like Haiti and africa.
    60% of haiti GDP before the earthquake was AID without with the island would be in famine.
    Haiti: Mud cakes become staple diet as cost of food soars beyond a family's reach | World news | The Guardian
    We are seeing unsubstainable non-organic popualtion growth based on Massive and contious food aid
    The key word being contious.
    NOt food aid that arrives for a drought or hurriane etc but contious, year in year out.
    What will happen to these huges populations if this food aid much of which grown by Farmers in Amercias
    Breadbasket if this aid is cut off some how. A Famine of epic propations. The poulations of Countries and territioes should reflect the local resoucres.

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    Quote Originally Posted by whiteknight111 View Post
    The causes, timeframes and response of both camalties are completly different,

    I am not going to get into a big discussion on the causes of the Irish "famine" but it was nothing to do
    with crop failure or overpopulation. It was a direct result of the english race and it's lust for money and land.I suggest u read Cecil Woodham-Smith The Great Hunger (1962),
    Heres an extract

    The potato was introduced to Ireland as a garden crop of the gentry. By the late seventeenth century it had become widespread as a supplementary rather than a principal food, as the main diet still revolved around butter, milk and grain products. In the first two decades of the eighteenth century, however, it became a base food of the poor, especially in winter.[23] The expansion of the economy between 1760 and 1815 saw the potato make inroads in the diet of the people and become a staple food all the year round for the cottier and small farm class.[24]
    The potato's spread was essential to the development of the cottier system, delivering an extremely cheap workforce, but at the cost of lower living standards. For the labourer it was essentially a potato wage that shaped the expanding agrarian economy.[24] The expansion of tillage led to an inevitable expansion of the potato acreage, and an expansion of the cottier class. By 1841, there were over half a million cottiers, with 1.75 million dependents. The principal beneficiary of this system was the English consumer.[24]
    The Celtic grazing lands of... Ireland had been used to pasture cows for centuries. The British colonized... the Irish, transforming much of their countryside into an extended grazing land to raise cattle for a hungry consumer market at home... The British taste for beef had a devastating impact on the impoverished and disenfranchised people of... Ireland... Pushed off the best pasture land and forced to farm smaller plots of marginal land, the Irish turned to the potato, a crop that could be grown abundantly in less favorable soil. Eventually, cows took over much of Ireland, leaving the native population virtually dependent on the potato for survival.




    Regarding the ethipohia situtain and the situation in parts of developing world like Haiti and africa.
    60% of haiti GDP before the earthquake was AID without with the island would be in famine.
    Haiti: Mud cakes become staple diet as cost of food soars beyond a family's reach | World news | The Guardian
    We are seeing unsubstainable non-organic popualtion growth based on Massive and contious food aid
    The key word being contious.
    NOt food aid that arrives for a drought or hurriane etc but contious, year in year out.
    What will happen to these huges populations if this food aid much of which grown by Farmers in Amercias
    Breadbasket if this aid is cut off some how. A Famine of epic propations. The poulations of Countries and territioes should reflect the local resoucres.

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    'The English Race' !!!!!
    An entire nation and people insulted by an ignorant right wing moron.

    A vile and racist comment- If anyone used Irish/Black/Jew in its place then this user and post would probably be banned or at the very lest censured for such racism.

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    Don't worry Alec. I'll put up a warning.............

    "It's far easier to fight for principles than to live up to them."
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    Bloody Geldof gets in everywhere still i see!.Abysmal frontman for a second rate band if you ask me."Sir Bob" (makes me sick he ever accepted that title) was usually seen accompanied by someone with real talent such as Bono,Phil Lynott or Van Morisson and was a master at riding their coat tails whilst trying to remain in the limelight.Peaches would definately get one though lol(and not just as a means of pissin off her old man)

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    You should all listen to whitey! When the Men in Black come for you, you're going to wish you had!

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    Wankstain Geldof owes me money
    Join the E-I Fantasy Football League

    http://www.escort-ireland.com/boards...ntasy-Football

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    The word "Race" was unfortate I should have said empire,nation or establiment I'll retract that.
    A common theme in many of a.h. posts are attacks on the Irish
    recently if i recall You have insulted the GAA, the lanugahue,
    the hunger strikers.

    right-wing? The USSR failed get over it and aquire an investment portfolio or something.

    Where is the bullshit,ignorance , moronic in THIS particular thread?
    Geldof raised money for live aid. Some of the live aid money was diverted to arms according to the BBC
    Peaches is living a very liberal livestyle, the probality of her dying a premature death is high
    Some countries are overpopulated and are dependent on foreign AID on a contious and on-going basis
    The English conquered Ireland and then proceeded to distribute the land in such a way as to make many
    irish peasents dependent on the potato because they wanted the land for Grain and beef in order increase
    the profits of their empire.

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    Quote Originally Posted by whiteknight111 View Post
    The word "Race" was unfortate I should have said empire,nation or establiment I'll retract that.
    A common theme in many of a.h. posts are attacks on the Irish
    recently if i recall You have insulted the GAA, the lanugahue,
    the hunger strikers.

    right-wing? The USSR failed get over it and aquire an investment portfolio or something.

    Where is the bullshit,ignorance , moronic in THIS particular thread?
    Geldof raised money for live aid. Some of the live aid money was diverted to arms according to the BBC
    Peaches is living a very liberal livestyle, the probality of her dying a premature death is high
    Some countries are overpopulated and are dependent on foreign AID on a contious and on-going basis
    The English conquered Ireland and then proceeded to distribute the land in such a way as to make many
    irish peasents dependent on the potato because they wanted the land for Grain and beef in order increase
    the profits of their empire.
    Funny how so often you quote British media and publications- eg Guardian, BBC, Times etc.

    Russia failed alright - but how are the Chinese and Venezuelans doing ?

    I did not insult the Irish Language - I say it is dead and worthless - much like Latin as a spoken tongue.

    I insulted the Hunger Strikers ? Are they sacred cows - Just because someone is a martyr it makes them untouchable ?

    The GAA- Damn right I insulted them- An organisation with a dreadfully xenophobic history.

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    Gentlemen, please - you're both equally funny

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