Dave ... I think Quarterpounder needs to do a demonstration ... what do you think? he heOriginally Posted by dave1dave
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Dave ... I think Quarterpounder needs to do a demonstration ... what do you think? he he
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No problem...Dave ... I think Quarterpounder needs to do a demonstration ... what do you think? he he
Hang on..... wrong hula right???
I think the new rules are a small step in the right direction, but I would have preferred a large step in the right direction.
The problem was always transparency. When badges started we knew that nbt was giving them out, or taking them away, but we never knew why. Then he left, and we didn't know who was giving badges out or taking them away and we still didn't know why. With the new system we will some idea who is giving out badges, but not very much. We know that they will be three mods, but that's it. And we will have some idea of why, but again not much. There are some criteria, like reviewing for two years and getting three references, but there will still be a judgement call about which of those reviewers get badges and which don't. We won't know the reasons for those judgement calls. And we'll know nothing at all about the people who already have badges. Why did nbt give me a badge? You don't know. To be honest, I don't either. So the new rules are an improvement, but not much of an improvement.
I would prefer a system which is much more transparent. First of all, I think all existing badges should be cancelled. Including mine, of course. Second, I think people should get or lose badges as a result of polls of punters and escorts. If someone is proposed for a badge then there should be a poll in the private escort forum and another, for punters, in the Established Members Lounge. Only people who have majority support in both should get badges. The same process, in reverse, should apply for losing badges.
A disadvantage of public polls is that sometimes mods may have information about someone which they can't share, but which makes them believe that person is unsuitable. But I don't think that is a major problem. They can post this fact to the thread. I think most members would be willing to trust most of the mods in such cases.
The new rules are an improvement over no rules, which is what we have now, but I won't start trusting "trusted reviewers" until the system is much more transparent.
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And if all the badges are the same that means you can not trust any.
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ha ha I like the hairy legs !!No problem...
Hang on..... wrong hula right???
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I string my ucalaly with themha ha I like the hairy legs !!
These proposed systems are over-complicated and are being over-thought by the wrong people, i.e. people that spend a lot of time on the site, posting on the message boards and submitting reviews.
What would be created, and maybe this is the unwritten intention at the back of all this, is a system where only a select few will have attained membership of the ‘golden circle’, learned the secret handshakes, received the invitation to the high table at the king’s banquet while all others will be excluded unless they jump through the (hula) hoops of those in charge.
Asking reviewers to put so much work in will put them off writing reviews, as the reviews would become worthless unless they agreed with one submitted by a ‘trusted reviewer’. Asking an escort for a reference will mean only positive reviews will be submitted.
It’s funny that asking an escort for their cooperation before submitting a review is now being recommended while only recently any review that was suspected of being too close to the escort was ratted, I believe the word ‘sap’ was used in describing the reviewer, how time flies....
There’s a story behind each escort, each reviewer, each client and each browser of this site. To ask all to comply with a strict set of rules or be left feeling that their opinion doesn’t matter is wrong. Some relationships between clients and escorts are cordial and friendly, maybe developing over time into actual friendships, some just purely financial, it is something private between those parties. If they choose to share their experiences, either party, they should not be discouraged. If others feel the comments submitted are disingenuous they should certainly have a right of reply. If someone is willing to fight for their opinion there is more likelihood it is true, the escort submitting a review for him or herself will probably not bother trying to back it up, it would only attract more attention. Likewise a malicious review should be open to challenge by the escorts or others who have spent time with that escort. The site should open up to more of such debate instead of inventing rules that will close the site off to people.
The operators, and moderators of this site need to ask themselves a fundamental question before they start inventing criteria that only a few users of the site can meet and only a few will want to meet.
Do they want to encourage new people to participate in the site?
Because if they do the path being suggested will work against that and encourage people not to participate in which case the reviews and the posts become a private club. In that case just meet up in a pub somewhere and have a good gossip and a bitching session once a week, clear the air and go back to work.
My open involvement with the site is very small to date. The question is whether the operators of the site want to encourage someone like me to continue to participate or not because the measures being suggested would certainly encourage me to take on the role of Conscientious Objector, making my own choices and keeping my opinions and experiences to myself, and leave the few to chat among themselves separate from the outside world.
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to be honest the people i trust least seem to have the badges...not all of them but most
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You are generalising things. Its not the case that "any" such reviews are ratted, only the ones that we have agreed are suspect and discussed.
Plus I used the word sap and not any other mod and I am not involved with badge issuing so again your ascertains hold no water.
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And your point is...
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