Advice/Thoughts On A Dllemna

[MiaX]

To all compassionate guys in this thread, light in the dark etc...think about the victims! What about their light? What about the darkness, the trauma, mental issues, PTSD, caused by such an attack? Lives are ruined by them! Sexual predators have mental issues, differently wired, therefore a rehabilitation is difficult and they are likely to reoffend. Along with other crimes, such as murderers, pedophiles and some others, from me, they can rot in hell, they don't deserve compassion, where was their compassion, when they commited their henious crimes?

[Palatine]

To all compassionate guys in this thread, light in the dark etc...think about the victims! What about their light? What about the darkness, the trauma, mental issues, PTSD, caused by such an attack? Lives are ruined by them! Sexual predators have mental issues, differently wired, therefore a rehabilitation is difficult and they are likely to reoffend. Along with other crimes, such as murderers, pedophiles and some others, from me, they can rot in hell, they don't deserve compassion, where was their compassion, when they commited their henious crimes?

This seems directed at me, so let me respond.

There is no "what about" here. Nothing about writing a letter suggests condoning a sexual crime, nor does it suggest a lack of empathy for victims of sexual crime.

Sexual crimes also have one of the lowest rates of recidivism (Irish Prison Service 2013), and US studies show a significant reduced rate of recidivism in felons who receive certain forms of behavioural treatment.

People like Larry Murphy should be locked up for good as their crimes deserve it and at least to this untrained eye - he seems untreatable. Let's not confuse two totally different things.

[MiaX]

This seems directed at me, so let me respond.

There is no "what about" here. Nothing about writing a letter suggests condoning a sexual crime, nor does it suggest a lack of empathy for victims of sexual crime.

Sexual crimes also have one of the lowest rates of recidivism (Irish Prison Service 2013), and US studies show a significant reduced rate of recidivism in felons who receive certain forms of behavioural treatment.

People like Larry Murphy should be locked up for good as their crimes deserve it and at least to this untrained eye - he seems untreatable. Let's not confuse two totally different things.

It is not just about the reoffence rate. You need to take into considetation the long lasting effectvit can take on onr's life, it can be a slow death. It is easy to be understanding, if you have never been a victim of such a crime. You don't know the trauma it can cause, not everyone is strong enough to overcome it, do some more research on the subject, I have all my empathy and compassion for the victims. One ruined life equals murder to me. Slower, but just the same.

[MiaX]

This seems directed at me, so let me respond.

There is no "what about" here. Nothing about writing a letter suggests condoning a sexual crime, nor does it suggest a lack of empathy for victims of sexual crime.

Sexual crimes also have one of the lowest rates of recidivism (Irish Prison Service 2013), and US studies show a significant reduced rate of recidivism in felons who receive certain forms of behavioural treatment.

People like Larry Murphy should be locked up for good as their crimes deserve it and at least to this untrained eye - he seems untreatable. Let's not confuse two totally different things.

Oh, and I wasn't directing it at you, wasn't attacking you, it is the topic, that fires me up.

[Palatine]

Aware that this subject may be triggering for some providers here, I don't plan to get into a debate on this topic. I'm deeply sympathetic to any victims of sexual violence, but that was not what this thread started as. I also understand completely that many would be unwilling or incapable to show even a smidgen on empathy for such prisoners.

[Stephanie]

Aware that this subject may be triggering for some providers here, I don't plan to get into a debate on this topic. I'm deeply sympathetic to any victims of sexual violence, but that was not what this thread started as. I also understand completely that many would be unwilling or incapable to show even a smidgen on empathy for such prisoners.

I’m triggered on bases of Justice x

I’d be triggered same if we were talking about abuse of animals .

Be same triggered on any injustice and harm to innocents x

[Thoreau]

Aware that this subject may be triggering for some providers here, I don't plan to get into a debate on this topic. I'm deeply sympathetic to any victims of sexual violence, but that was not what this thread started as. I also understand completely that many would be unwilling or incapable to show even a smidgen on empathy for such prisoners.

In fairness, I have to applaud you for sticking your head above the parapet - that takes moral courage and really think you should not be condoned for your "intelligent" or different views. For the record, I agree with your assessment that I started the "Thread" for genuine reasons (my dilemna) and as already stated - my conscience would not allow me to continue and that's me, although to a certain extent, I was influenced by some conclusive "thoughts" that were expressed here with obvious passion. A special mention to MidLifeCrisis who really "hit the nail" on the head with his valuable comments about me, which are noted and will reconsider with the organisation if I am suitable for the scheme, even with the best intentions. I want to sincerely thank everyone who put forward constructive viewpoints - for/against/inbetween.

[Palatine]

In fairness, I have to applaud you for sticking your head above the parapet - that takes moral courage and really think you should not be condoned for your "intelligent" or different views. For the record, I agree with your assessment that I started the "Thread" for genuine reasons (my dilemna) and as already stated - my conscience would not allow me to continue and that's me, although to a certain extent, I was influenced by some conclusive "thoughts" that were expressed here with obvious passion. A special mention to MidLifeCrisis who really "hit the nail" on the head with his valuable comments about me, which are noted and will reconsider with the organisation if I am suitable for the scheme, even with the best intentions. I want to sincerely thank everyone who put forward constructive viewpoints - for/against/inbetween.

There's so much darkness and crap in the world, much of it self-perpetuating. Abuse begetting abuse, violence begetting violence. Breaking the cycle is hard. Fair play to you for looking for a way to add some light and goodness into the balance. If you decided to go ahead with it, I'd applaud you for just doing some good for a human being, but likewise if you decide not to because of the nature of the crime that's OK too - it's very hard sometimes. Finding somewhere else to redirect your kindness - that's the way forward, I think.

I try. I was grumpy with the self-checkout supervisor in Tesco this morning because she seemed pretty inefficient. I'm sorry about that, and hope she doesn't soak it in and get grouchy with a kid at home later. I'm not pretending to be good at this, and I have short patience for things like this and forum vuvuzelas. But when moments of clarity allow me to overrule my lack of patience, I try to ensure that what I'm passing on in any interacton with another human being isn't negative, and maybe positive.