Mia Doring on the “Episode” podcast with Richie Sadlier

[IrishSarahBarra]

Mm, I sure plenty of girls feel like that about what they did, or are currently feeling like that now. It takes a lot of strength to isolate yourself from assholes and then not project onto people who simply aren't.

There are a lot of assholes out there if one is vulnerable to them or mentally vulnerable to begin with.

I still find it hard to swallow her piece entirely - how much money does someone chase if they loathe it and are only using their income as disposable cash, and are not funding a drug dependency/alcohol addiction etc?

I reckon it would be infrequent working by someone who doesn't have anything to struggle for and by someone who was mentally vulnerable. It's not a job for everyone. But these the type who find it easiest to look back and blame everyone else but themselves, and not allow for women who aren't mentally vulnerable and who have bigger things to worry about than imagining what a client may or may not be thinking about them in his every waking moment. For the most part, good or bad, clients are not even thinking about you, they're gone on with their own lives. You've got you.

Even her client base, I don't buy it, I know that client base, big house, family photos, it's an exceptional one who you'd meet who hasn't spent the hours previous hoping you'll be a girl who will enjoy herself too. I've met one but he was also not a nice guy in real life (I used shop there, I'm sure the staff were miserable).

People want to part with money for sex, yes, but they don't want to part with it if they think that you won't like them. Lying that you will suffices most of the time because they too can't know any different or know what you're thinking but it's certainly not what they're hoping for.

I've yet to see an advert that says, "I don't like my job or having clients in me but please give me money and do with my body as you wish". Probably because it wouldn't do very well. If it did, they'd be the real abusers, not the ones she's projecting onto.

But I would ask why, why if that's how feel about all clients, wouldn't you put it in your advert. Who are you trying to attract by not doing so? Non-abusers, people who don't want to abuse you, people who want you to have a good time too?

You can't think that those people don't exist but do exist at the same time. Well, you can but that's your problem.

[IrishSarahBarra]

*you

Actually, that advert would probably do great but a third for all the wrong reasons, a third for all the people who'd hope you're playing and they want to play too, and a third because I didn't write it well and it might be a princess domming ...or Rachel.

[Harry68]

"I still find it hard to swallow her piece entirely - how much money does someone chase if they loathe it and are only using their income as disposable cash, and are not funding a drug dependency/alcohol addiction etc?"

I'm struck by the number of overseas ladies (i can't comment on anyone else) who are doing for monetary reasons and often quite well defined ones who will spend huge sums on designer clothes / bags etc. That is not me being judgemental although it may sound like that but it seems a hard way to see maybe 7/8 people minimum to buy something that gets put in the back of the closet and make that initial goal a little bit further away. Money is a means to validate yourself and at the same time for some it is also a reminder of how they have gotten it.

I was/am a heavy gambler. I grew up around horse racing people and a set that loved to plot and gamble. I know that nothing is so dangerous as having a big win. It's spectacularly easy to give the money back in minutes to the bookmaker or just as easy to buy something stupid with it. Money does funny things to people and their judgements no matter who they are especially money they feel was not earned "properly". I spent 35 years from my first bet to a few years ago learning that. For the record any money you've earned honestly through your efforts physically or mentally is "proper" money in my book.

In terms of vulnerability I saw someone about two months ago that left me deeply disturbed. I'm talking someone deeply unhappy, isolated and lonely. I'm pretty certain she had given birth within the last 6 months. Maybe she had just had a bad client or was missing home. What does one do then? One definitely decides there is no point in continuing what you had intended. One asks "are you ok" but are really hoping that the answer is anything but "no I'm terrible". One asks "am I the only person who has seen this" amidst the glowing reviews. One goes "why the f@@k am I feeding the machine?". One knows why they are feeding the machine but maybe that is not good enough. "Hard cases make bad laws" I tell myself. Yeah right.

[IrishSarahBarra]

Aye, I hear you but I'm not talking about everyone, I'm taking about her in particular and girls like her. She was privileged af in terms of what she was doing. She had one traumatising event prior to her getting into the business. She didn't work often, she didn't have to work often, she was in a healthy position to clock watch as she said so herself. She was playing, she hasn't a notion, and now she's dramatising her particular situation because she can do. Some people said some off putting things to her sometimes.



She was a pretty young white Irish girl from Monkstown from a two parent family who could write and communicate well I'm English, and did well enough and had resources enough to go to UCD, she dabbled in escorting for a few years, had no disabilities (bar her previous trauma), no kids, no mortgage, no addictions, had brains enough and stability enough to continue her studies.

She hasn't a notion, and is dramatising her past and capitalising at the expense of others.

I don't like women like her. There are plenty of women in the industry who are not as privileged as she was who are happy af to be in the industry because they actually know what it's like to struggle, and what they would like is to be able to do it in a safe environment and without interference from people like her.

[IrishSarahBarra]

* comma, comma, in

[oddball]

I'm rather confused by the she was raped and traumatized so she got into the sex trade bit, if it was traumatic would you not be adverse to similar scenarios as "triggering"?

Also - UCD dropout -> Art college -> Institute of Art and Design -> Journalism... doesn't seem like she was stuck for cash given that's not exactly a career path but instead the path of a dreamer with notions of being the next Picasso or such. Definitely sounds like a privileged background and probably did escorting for kicks, or drama, as opposed to got into escorting out of need for cash, so I question her claim "You do it when you feel like it, whenever you need some extra money.".

[IrishSarahBarra]

No extortionate accomodation costs to pay, no dodgy landlords to deal with etc, no having to do things she wasn't comfortable with that she didn't create for herself accidentally or on purpose.

Not just relatively privileged in relation to people entering the industry, my point is that she was privileged in the type of clients that she could attract. She wasn't getting the dregs, she was meeting what you and I would class as normal people or she at least could have been meeting them. I don't buy that she was abused beyond her own making.

The only part of it I do buy is that she was previously raped and traumatised and somehow ended up in the industry like how people end up in the party life continuing a cycle of abuse and self abuse, but I reckon it was with herself and demons who didn't exist.

Lots of people who were abused do end up in sex work, I don't doubt that. For lots of reasons, some because they know they can do it, they're at a loss, they were stunted earlier on and are playing catch up now, led into it by a dodgy partner, etc, etc, many reasons.

I have sympathy for it up to a point, she was raped by someone at some stage who wasn't a punter, she was traumatised, she was young, but don't going interfering with other sex workers abilities to manage, control or keep safe their sexual situations.

She's lost me at that and at her farcical tale of abuse in the industry.

Anyhow, I shouldn't even read these, I promised myself to ignore all things political...give me peace 🙏🏼 I just saw her face, read her nonsense and sparked.