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    Default No difference!

    For the record I voted No. Not that i think it matters 'cause this country was going down the tubes anyway. I mean, can being governed by Europe be any worse than than the shower of useless, inept, corrupt, selfish, two-faced, lying, cheating and, in some cases, criminal politicians that make up the government and opposition here?
    Yes - we sold out, when we joined the EEC and gave away our fisheries. Why don't we get rights to the natural resources of other member states?
    We joined the euro despite the fact that our biggest customer is the UK and now we're paying for it because of the exchange rate. We might have to leave the Euro yet...
    I reckon though if the Pearse's and Collins' of the past came back today the first thing they would do is get rid of the present 'Lords and Masters', clean out the pig sty, and build a new Ireland.

    Shit - who cares - we're fucked one way or another!

    PS: Europe stood by and did nothing when Mladic, Karadic and co. went 'cleansing' in Bosnia, and again in Kosovo. Too busy celebrating winning the cold war!
    Last edited by Prickly; 24-02-10 at 05:03. Reason: Not finished ranting.......

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    Quote Originally Posted by nicegirlsarenice View Post
    The propaganda is all PRO-EUROPEAN. Pro-"integration" etc. The fact that you guys don't even see that they're selling off Ireland for their own profits is a joke.

    You're being brainwashed into not being "racist", not being "hateful", "bigoted", all the words they throw at people who don't want invaders in our country.

    The reason they come here is because they were busy fighting and massacring when our grandfathers and great-grandfathers etc. were building up the country and economy for them and their children!!!! They are selling us out, we are being SOLD OUT.

    As for heros of time's past, well here's Ratko Mladic working out a battle plan he's about to commence... the logistics of slaughtering a village of men, women and children. Was there ever anyone remotely similar in the history of Ireland?

    The Irish masscared the protestants planters and there descenedents in numerous rebelliions
    1642 1798 etc . just as the serbs masscared the ottomon planters and their
    descnedents. Every side commited warcrimes in the balkans
    The serbs got a bad wrap cuase they had the biggest and best army and commited the largest and most high profile mass killings
    and of course there where the ones NATO bombed to end it so the "media" had to make them
    the bad guys. The war in the balkans goes back hundreds of years back to the turksih invasions
    and there enslavement of the serbs.

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    Default The majority of this makes no sence.............

    Quote Originally Posted by nicegirlsarenice View Post
    The propaganda is all PRO-EUROPEAN. Pro-"integration" etc. The fact that you guys don't even see that they're selling off Ireland for their own profits is a joke.

    You're being brainwashed into not being "racist", not being "hateful", "bigoted", all the words they throw at people who don't want invaders in our country.

    The reason they come here is because they were busy fighting and massacring when our grandfathers and great-grandfathers etc. were building up the country and economy for them and their children!!!! They are selling us out, we are being SOLD OUT.

    As for heros of time's past, well here's Ratko Mladic working out a battle plan he's about to commence... the logistics of slaughtering a village of men, women and children. Was there ever anyone remotely similar in the history of Ireland?

    But the bit in red makes the least........

    Sweet Jesus, you think people need to be brainwashed in to not being racist etc???

    You say that like being racisim isn't a bad thing.............
    "It's far easier to fight for principles than to live up to them."
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    Default You forgot one propaganda

    Quote Originally Posted by luther View Post
    About the susceptibility of some people to propaganda..........

    I find it quite sad that people would use the memory of the dead heros of this country in this way..........

    It's an embarrassment for me to see this...........it truely is.............



    Of course, I haven't seen this happening either.............

    the fact that ppl of this country voted and the referendum was rejected and that was good enough. So they decided to have another. I would never ever vote agin. Ill use my vote,ill rip it up but will never vote.

    if it means nothing for Lisbon then it can mean nothing period,
    Westside.

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    Default Yes, I couldn't agree more.........

    Quote Originally Posted by Westsidex View Post
    the fact that ppl of this country voted and the referendum was rejected and that was good enough. So they decided to have another. I would never ever vote agin. Ill use my vote,ill rip it up but will never vote.

    if it means nothing for Lisbon then it can mean nothing period,
    Westside.
    An absolute slap in the face for democracy, I was totally against it at the time it was first suggested, I was very much of the opinion that the government were just going to keep holding the referendum till they got the result they wanted, which in my opinion was BS........

    However things change, the countries economic landscape changed in the mean time. We were not voting in the same economic enviornment the second time that we had voted in the first time. There were changes and clarifications made before the second vote and people were much better educated about the treaty..........
    "It's far easier to fight for principles than to live up to them."
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    Quote Originally Posted by luther View Post
    There were changes and clarifications made before the second vote and people were much better educated about the treaty..........
    Scare tactics used by the gov that if we didnt vote Lisbon ,we would be freezed out and our economy would not recover. Whats stopping our economy recovering? EU? Its the banks and the fact that credit isnt easily available. Of course ppl could make the point that the anti campaign used scare tactics too but lets face it,nothing would scare someone better than saying if we dont vote yes then our jobs are doomed.

    The fact of the matter is anybody who voted yes the second time when they had voted no the first time, gave in to scare tactics and put principle on the back burner.

    Lisbon makes absolutely no difference to our economic recovery but it can make a big dofference in changing our economy to suit the EU in the long run and that may not suit us.

    we gave too much away,
    Westside.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Czarcasm View Post
    what age are you ,12
    What breed are you? A dickhead?

    Westside.

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    Default By the way

    Quote Originally Posted by Czarcasm View Post
    what age are you ,12
    your probably like 99% of the ppl of this country ,crying like little bitches over how dangerous it is or how bad it is. Yeah whatever.

    Lovingly,
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    Quote Originally Posted by Westsidex View Post
    your probably like 99% of the ppl of this country ,crying like little bitches over how dangerous it is or how bad it is. Yeah whatever.

    Lovingly,
    West.

    Now why would i be crying over how dangerous or bad it is . It doesnt not bother me in the slightest . To me you seem like the one that is crying because we didnt vote no, well boohoo . Get over it and just by the way ,are you vertically challenged

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    Default Cant read your post

    Quote Originally Posted by Czarcasm View Post
    Now why would i be crying over how dangerous or bad it is . It doesnt not bother me in the slightest . To me you seem like the one that is crying because we didnt vote no, well boohoo . Get over it and just by the way ,are you vertically challenged
    im only 12.
    Westside.

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