Independent escorts, agencies and ‘protectors’

[konus]

I have no moral problem with prostitution or the idea that I pay for sex. But lately I’ve become a bit suspicious again about the advertising on EI and the actual reality of meeting an escort. I usually peruse the ads (profile) of the escorts to make a choice to meet. I have a number of criteria that I personally always try to stick to. Appearance, age (30 or over for me, I want to be pretty sure the lady is mature enough to make her own decisions), offer of services, reviews and most importantly if the lady in question is independent. The last criterium is important to me because I find it important to know whether the money I pay the lady actually all goes to her, every penny of it.
I do not want a serious proportion of that money going to either, madams, agents, of human traffickers.

I think on the whole 90% of the ladies I visit are independent. ( they may have a boyfriend, but that’s their business) but lately I had at least three occasions where I arranged a meeting with a person on the phone with perfect English ( albeit with an accent. And since I’m not Irish myself I recognise a significant amount of accents. German, Russian, Spanish Italian American etc.) and then when you actually meet the lady on location they can hardly string a sentence together. This makes me suspicious that there are agents or worse active arranging appointments and of course they don’t do that for nothing. Now it’s perfectly possible that the girl has someone who speaks better English and whom she trusts to arrange appointments for her and that would be fine. But I have my suspicions that this is not the case. And again I have a serious problem with contributing to criminals who are abusing vulnerable women.

Young foreign ladies, basic english, different town in Ireland every couple days ... doesn't take much figuring out !!

[Blue60]

Young foreign ladies, basic english, different town in Ireland every couple days ... doesn't take much figuring out !!

Are you therefore saying that the escorts you describe above are basically all forced into the business and work in fear of their criminal masters ?

[konus]

Are you therefore saying that the escorts you describe above are basically all forced into the business and work in fear of their criminal masters ?

I'm not suggesting that for a moment. The point I am making is that foreign ladies with basic english couldn't organise travel and privately rented accommodation in up to a dozen rural Irish towns over 3/4 weeks without 'help'. My observation is that the travel/accommodation is organised for them, bit like the days when we used our Main St travel agents to book our two weeks in 'Terrormolinos'... (€99 specials, they were the days) ..

Think about it... Young foreign lady with no English and no car, can somehow get herself to Roscommon, Westmeath or Sligo, and find a privately owned apartment to rent for 3 days .. !!!! not possible even with airbnb.

[Blue60]

I'm not suggesting that for a moment. The point I am making is that foreign ladies with basic english couldn't organise travel and privately rented accommodation in up to a dozen rural Irish towns over 3/4 weeks without 'help'. My observation is that the travel/accommodation is organised for them, bit like the days when we used our Main St travel agents to book our two weeks in 'Terrormolinos'... (€99 specials, they were the days) ..

Think about it... Young foreign lady with no English and no car, can somehow get herself to Roscommon, Westmeath or Sligo, and find a privately owned apartment to rent for 3 days .. !!!! not possible even with airbnb.

Ok, so in the main you are happy and understanding of their situation so ?

[konus]

Ok, so in the main you are happy and understanding of their situation so ?

When you 'copied and pasted' my post in your last reply you took it upon yourself to 'highlight' a sentence in my original post that wasn't 'highlighted' by me ... don't do that again .. are we clear ...it's rude !!

[Rooney2808]

When you 'copied and pasted' my post in your last reply you took it upon yourself to 'highlight' a sentence in my original post that wasn't 'highlighted' by me ... don't do that again .. are we clear ...it's rude !!

it's not rude!!

[WellDressed]

it's not rude!!

[Blue60]

When you 'copied and pasted' my post in your last reply you took it upon yourself to 'highlight' a sentence in my original post that wasn't 'highlighted' by me ... don't do that again .. are we clear ...it's rude !!

I wouldn't agree with that myself.

Probably rude though to ignore the question that I took the time , interest and effort to ask .

[InsidiousCid]

Two apparently conflicting views of how things work from two independent and experienced sex workers, Amy and Michelle.

you are not going to hear the truth from most escorts on here and that is fact as they want to protect their business unless they are retiring.

Unfortunate truth. It's important to bear in mind that for a provider, posting here = marketing.

No escort wants her business impacted.

I've found even mentioning things in the warning section as an example, has some providers attacking me in other threads, because they feel outlining the cold/hard reality of things could impact their business.

This is unfortunate of course as, it's basically prioritizing profits ahead of safety and integrity of practice.

It's just important to bear in mind that providers are going to create a narrative which casts themselves in the best possible light, portrays the practice in the best possible light, conceals some less savory truths, and ultimately stimulates their business.

Which I'm sure is perfectly fine....... but up to a point.

[SexyKitty1]

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I’m not sure if you re a garda worker for trafficking human or you just expose your thoughts in here. What you mean 85% are Romanian collected by cars on small prices who come to Ireland because the money are not good in England. Whaaaat? All the girls you visit was trafficked? And you didn t raported them to save them from pimps hands ? I’m terrified in what I read. I presume you told some girls that you re a landlord and they ask if you can just rent out, nothing more.

We all work for a good life and to provide for our family or kids, if I decide to put up 50 or 300euro for half an hour means I’m trafficked? Happens, yes , all over the word , but I think that girls have no documents , are kept with force and they will try to save themselves, not spending on brands clothes , going in holidays and travel in what country they want for work to offer themselves a better life.
Think you exaggerate with 85 percent romanian .