Sexual Offences Act 2017

[MidlifeCrisis]

An excellent letter!

One suggestion - you might want to consider referencing this study, which was carried out at Queen's University Belfast as part of a review of the impact of the legislation in the north of Ireland.

https://www.justice-ni.gov.uk/sites/...ng-for-sex.pdf

As well as giving convincing evidence that the legislation up north has had no discernable benefits, it casts doubt on the evidence from Sweden and elsewhere, pointing out that those jurisdictions do not have high quality before-and-after data.

Whatever happens, I wish you well. Although the legislation clearly opens up the possibility of having to appear in court, the risks appear to be really tiny if you are reasonably careful. Given your previous practice of visiting a small number of regulars, I would encourage you to consider if it is time to take that small risk.

[MidlifeCrisis]

Some advice I would like to give , Before you visit an escort ring and ask her for what you would like during your meeting once agreed then tell the escort of your fears and say that you will be sending her a text outline that all your looking for at your meeting is a massage nothing else and ask the escort to reply that she will be happy to give you a massage only as agreed if you are then stopped you can agree that you did in fact visit this escort but it was for a massage only and show the police your text to the escort and her reply it’s not illegal to go for a massage only to an escort and you committed no crime and can’t be arrested it’s important that the escorts on this site include in there list that they do in fact offer MASSAGE ONLY SERVICES as well as other services hopes this helps.

I think it is a common misconception that massage-only visits are safe from prosecution. The wording from the ROI Act is as follows, and the NI one is similar:

(2) In this section ‘sexual activity’ means any activity where a reasonable person would consider that—

(a) whatever its circumstances or the purpose of any person in relation to it, the activity is because of its nature sexual, or

(b) because of its nature the activity may be sexual and because of its circumstances or the purposes of any person in relation to it (or both) the activity is sexual.”,

My reading of this is that erotic massage would clearly be covered, as would dominatrix services etc - basically anything intended to give sexual pleasure to a client. It is likely though that, other things being equal, the authorities would be less likely to proceed with prosecution of a massage-only client.

[Palatine]

I think it is a common misconception that massage-only visits are safe from prosecution. The wording from the ROI Act is as follows, and the NI one is similar:

(2) In this section ‘sexual activity’ means any activity where a reasonable person would consider that—

(a) whatever its circumstances or the purpose of any person in relation to it, the activity is because of its nature sexual, or

(b) because of its nature the activity may be sexual and because of its circumstances or the purposes of any person in relation to it (or both) the activity is sexual.”,

My reading of this is that erotic massage would clearly be covered, as would dominatrix services etc - basically anything intended to give sexual pleasure to a client. It is likely though that, other things being equal, the authorities would be less likely to proceed with prosecution of a massage-only client.

If the bar is "does it give sexual pleasure to a client", then lap dancing clubs would be illegal. As would one of my dentists with her forehead boob-resting.

I doubt the bar is really that low for prosecution but as others point out, it's not about being convicted, it's about being charged.

[ladiesman217]

Well written, but you're wasting your time. It won't even reach the TD you are sending it to. It will be picked up by one of their lackeys, and they'll send you a generic reply saying "thank you for emailing Mr/Ms ____. We will forward this on to ____. BLAH BLAH BLAH BLAH BLAH BLAH. Kind regards!"

Never mind wolves in sheep's clothing, they are all SNAKES in sheep's clothing! Useless fucking cunts who poison the very air they inhale! I HOPE YOU ALL DIE VERY LONG AND PAINFUL DEATHS YOU TRAITOROUS FUCKS, EVERY FUCKING ONE OF YOU!

[DamoEI]

Well written, but you're wasting your time. It won't even reach the TD you are sending it to. It will be picked up by one of their lackeys, and they'll send you a generic reply saying "thank you for emailing Mr/Ms ____. We will forward this on to ____. BLAH BLAH BLAH BLAH BLAH BLAH. Kind regards!"

Never mind wolves in sheep's clothing, they are all SNAKES in sheep's clothing! Useless fucking cunts who poison the very air they inhale! I HOPE YOU ALL DIE VERY LONG AND PAINFUL DEATHS YOU TRAITOROUS FUCKS, EVERY FUCKING ONE OF YOU!

Stop beating around the bush and tell us how you REALLY feel!

[ladiesman217]

Stop beating around the bush and tell us how you REALLY feel!

If they want to see what real hate speech is, I'll show them real f*cking hate speech.

Let's just say it involves a knife, and a whole new meaning to 'blowjob' -> Varadkar, Martin, McEntee, Donnelly, you'd be the initial f*cking receivers of that hate speech!!

[The Libertarian]

2 Things -

1 Re: disabled people engaging with sex workers, ordinarily men who are not disabled doing this are taken by TORLERS as using and abusing women. When it happens to be disabled clients it's taken by these fcuking loons as sex workers taking advantage of vulnerable folk!

2 Varadkar before his political mentor Fitzie Fitzie brought in the anti sex worker law IIRC said in Hot Press that he was against the criminalization of clients!

I guarantee that any review will just lead to more oppressive legislation!

[Larrii]

If they want to see what real hate speech is, I'll show them real f*cking hate speech.

Let's just say it involves a knife, and a whole new meaning to 'blowjob' -> Varadkar, Martin, McEntee, Donnelly, you'd be the initial f*cking receivers of that hate speech!!

Yeh, yeh, but how BAAAD does it make you FEEEL?