Larrii (08-02-24)
If they tried to force an escort to incriminate a client, would she not have to appear in court to given evidence?
Ride them on the beaches!
Any decent lawyer would rings around this law in court!
Ride them on the beaches!
I think the luvlee minister is locked in to the view that sex work is violence against women!
And cannot fully see that driving sex work underground makes sex workers much more susceptible to violence!
She possibly has been overloaded by TORLER nonsense and their madness!
I wouldn't have been the norm in my experience but I have been in situations for sure where the female escorts in the room were hornier than any man there!
I have also observed many men interact with female escorts and while in party settings you will find pussy hoggers, I have never really seen a man mistreat a woman there!
I did come across one awful asshole in Berlin who verbally abused me because he didn't want me to observe his buddy getting owo (illegal and subject to a 50K fine in a client-escort encounter there) from a lady!
I missed my chance given that the bollex had a tash I should have advised him that German Men with mustaches really should be extra careful about how they interact with the world!
Ride them on the beaches!
This is the actual legislation:
7A. (1) A person who pays, gives, offers or promises to pay or give a person (including a prostitute) money or any other form of remuneration or consideration for the purpose of engaging in sexual activity with a prostitute shall be guilty of an offence and shall be liable on summary conviction—
(a) in the case of a first offence, to a class E fine, and
(b) in the case of a second or subsequent offence, to a class D fine.
(2) In this section ‘sexual activity’ means any activity where a reasonable person would consider that—
(a) whatever its circumstances or the purpose of any person in relation to it, the activity is because of its nature sexual, or
(b) because of its nature the activity may be sexual and because of its circumstances or the purposes of any person in relation to it (or both) the activity is sexual.”,
So the offence is paying, giving, offering, Promising.
If an apartment is raided by Gardai for brothel keeping yes they can seize the ladies phone or they can sieze the phone of a client found there on the property. Clients bad luck for risking going to an apartment where more that one lady was working from, he is now caught up in a brother keeping investigation.
But What I could see happening a lot from cases I was reading in local papers was it appears that Gardaí were finding where an independent escort was working from then watching the apartment and stopping her clients coming out. The client was then admitting to seeing an escort that’s how the prosecution was coming about.
The operation you’re talking about was a brothel keeping/human trafficking operation. If Clients are risking going to brothels well then tough, That doesn’t concern me.
What concerns me is the legislation this article is referring to and is the offence of paying for sex - brothel keeping and any client found on a premises during a raid is a seperate matter. My apartment won’t ever be getting raided for brothel keeping and therefore Gardai won’t ever have a power to sieze my work phone.
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Larrii (08-02-24)
She is a fucking bigoted feminazi cunt of the highest order whose head is so far up her own behind that that it's impossible to tell one end from the other, and has ZERO business being a minister of f*cking sand let alone justice, because she is nothing more than a mindless drone incapable of forming an objective opinion on anything. If she had any f*cking decency and actually cared about her country and people, she'd resign. Personally I think she ought to take a long jump off a short pier into shark infested waters.
Last edited by ladiesman217; 08-02-24 at 00:36.
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Jenny - you could be raided no bother.
You operate from hotels and the door could be kicked in at any moment. You assume all those brothels raided were seedy holes, we don't know anything about them and there could be lots of independents using them for work just like you use hotels.
Even if the Garda were waiting in the hotel corridor or lobby outside your room they could get clients there, watch them come and go and seize your phone or plug it in to a device to record all info and hand it back to you. Plus if you ever calls the police for any reason your phone may be needed to provide evidence and then bingo, they get all your clients.
We don't know if you were visited during that operation but you were almost definitely texted, which means they are aware of you. Even contacting you is a crime for punters.
You and other independents sometimes do duo work/collaborations = that could mean you both in a room or apartment at the same time which under the legislation would equate to a brothel and boom, there goes your phones, laptops and cash.
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There are hotels that escorts simply wont visit as too much hassle, some are just kicked out for trying to make a few bob and guards are called, they're just idiots the operations manager and the funny thing is that one these daft hotels is now closing to accommodate immigrants